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    missing the dip stick

    does anyone have any idea why Yamaha replaced the oil dip stick with a glass peep hole? it had to cost them more to put a port hole in the side case than it cost to put a little piece of plastic on the oil fill plug. I miss the dip stick, I have a tough time trying to make sure the bike stays vertical while almost standing on my head trying to see oil in a little hole. on top of that, now I can't smell or feel the engine oil so it is hard the stay in touch with any engine problems
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    My 2 cents on the issue... Sight glass is used on many things from motorcycle engines to tractors and so on instead of a dipstick for the main reason of preventing contamination. The less you have to open the case, the smaller the chance of mud, dirt grime, lint from your rag, etc getting in there and messing stuff up.
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    More likely it has to do with the position of the stick itself. Doubtful there is a straight run where the cap with the stick could go through to reach the sump for an accurate reading.

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    For the most part on a TW, if you see oil and air above it in the sight glass, weather the bike is perfectly verticle or not, you are good to go. Makes it easy to check everytime you get on. Need to touch and play with the carcinogen called oil? Change it every 1000 miles. It is only a quart.
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    With a dip stick, I'm always trying to remember if I'm supposed to screw in all the way or let it rest on top of the threads when I check the oil. Sight glass takes away that guess work and introduces the "is it vertical" question. I just hold it by the right handlebar with the wheel straight and feel for the balance point while looking at the sight glass. It helps with the eye hand coordination.
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    I think a little of this has to do with the age of our tech. Back in the seventies all my DT's had sight glasses. That said I bought one of these when they quit putting centerstands on bikes. Use it quite a bit. It has earned its space in my tight garage.

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    Agree with Irppcer . Also , sight glass is more effective , IMO . On checking oil for TW : Put bike in 1st gear , push forward until bike stops.....due to being in gear . Kneel down by rightside of bike ( keep the kickstand down btw, incase the bike "gets away from you " during this procedure . Now , IF you have the balance and physical strength , gently lean bike vertical.....towards you ( I usually grasp the least widest part of the seat.....just prior to the seat going up the tank )......your left knee can also be used as support against the bike while your right knee is on the ground . Your right hand is also on the ground for support . You can now peer into the sight glass .
    AGAIN , the aforementioned is only for riders who possess the balance and strength abilities..... no liabilities on my part mind you . If my rambling makes since , I've found this to be quite effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frog13 View Post
    Agree with Irppcer . Also , sight glass is more effective , IMO . On checking oil for TW : Put bike in 1st gear , push forward until bike stops.....due to being in gear . Kneel down by rightside of bike ( keep the kickstand down btw, incase the bike "gets away from you " during this procedure . Now , IF you have the balance and physical strength , gently lean bike vertical.....towards you ( I usually grasp the least widest part of the seat.....just prior to the seat going up the tank )......your left knee can also be used as support against the bike while your right knee is on the ground . Your right hand is also on the ground for support . You can now peer into the sight glass .
    AGAIN , the aforementioned is only for riders who possess the balance and strength abilities..... no liabilities on my part mind you . If my rambling makes since , I've found this to be quite effective.
    Just don't put your knee or hand down in dog poop in the yard like I have before checking...the oil.
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    I have a KTM with a dipstick, and the oil is supposed to be checked warm. Damn thing never reads the same twice, give me a sight glass any day!
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