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    How do you non-kickstart boys survive?

    I know...I know...been discussed a million plus times.... batt puked a couple of days ago....just got really used to that start button over the years...don't mind kickin...but hate pushing.....
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    I wouldn't have it any other way.
    But then again, mine came with one.

    I'm spoiled.



    Bro, ya need to git cha one. It can be mighty handy to have in a pinch.
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    ~GiGGle~Some of us 'boys' just tote a spare battery with us.
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    I gota 2014, wish I had a kick start, but I don't. I learned long ago to replace my batteries ( bass boat, cars, truck ) after 5 years or the first sign of a faulty cell. Batteries are cheep compared to the hassle and inconvience of being stuck. Your going to have to replace it anyway, so get pro-active.
    I can buy at least 5 batteries for the cost of a kickstart kit. Although this is my first bike w/out a kickstart, I do feel a little cheated...!
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    I've only had a failure to start requiring a push start once in 11,000 miles. I changed the OEM battery to an AGM at the beginning (2010), and replaced it a year ago. What I discovered, other than the usual battery abuse ( not riding often, not removing in the winter and/or keeping it trickle charged), is that at low speeds in the dirt, with the headlight on all the time and the always on turn signals, that the stator just can't keep up....it needs about 4,000 RPM to charge the battery above that draw. I just pulled the low beam connector and the front always on signal lamp connectors, and now I can leave the GPS on all the time with its direct to battery SAE connector.

    I never ride at night, so I saved 4 amps by doing this. Haven't had a failure to start now in two years.

    Actually, the OEM lead/acid batteries' are more resistant to low charge rates than the AGM's, but the other advantages of the AGM's outweigh this. If you don't ride several times a week with at least 20 minutes of moderate to high RPM's, you need to use a Battery Tender on a regular basis.
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    When I purchased my 2004 TW (ala no kick starter) it didn't have a working battery. So I got one ordered, but who can wait? I found 3rd gear to be my push of choice gear.
    TWLIGHT that is a majorly generous offer. I don't think work will let me attend Moab, but (cough, cough) I think I might feel something (cough cough) coming on.
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    And I have a sister who lives there. Her retired Dentist husband runs a tour business there, Pretty pathetic of me :-(
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    This is an interesting topic and thanks for the offer TWilight, but I am not sure I want one.
    I have riden my WR for 5 years without one with no issues, but I am aware that if I stop (kill switch, stall, crash) to turn off the bike and there have been challenging rides where the bike has been stalled many times and I have had no issues with the battery. My TW has such high mileage (48000+ km) and does have a toggle switch mod for the front head light and I rarely stall it that I don't see the need. That being said I have only had the TW a few months and have not had to start it on a really cold day yet.
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    I like a kick start for the same reason I like a manual transmission transmission in cars: Starting redundancy through independent systems.
    A newly , spare, or super hi-tec unobtanium battery will not get the bike running when you have a wiring, starter, relay, switching, solenoid, or simple key left on issue. Hard to get bike up to speed for a third gear bump start when its in the bottom of a mud hole.
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    For any type of remote off road riding, I'd just carry a spare 1 pound battery. The battery of course may not always get you out. Kick starters can fail too, but that's why it's so nice to have both.
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