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    Hi there!

    I am new to the forum. I've been reading through the different posts and found a lot of valuable information.

    However, I am a bit confused as to which way to go with purchasing a used TW200.



    Right now there are 2 sales I am interested in. In one hand there is a 1987 with 2,000 miles for $1,000, in the other a 1990 with 12,500 miles for $1,200 with a set of extra tires (tires and rims), one set DOT knobby, the other set enduro.



    From the info I've gathered here, the 87s had electrical problems and lower electric output. Also, a bike from 87 with only 2,000 miles has hardly been riden, so I might have to deal with rust in the tank, an other issues typical of 20+ years old bikes. As far as the 90 I have also read in here that it might be necessary to rebuild the engine after 10k miles (depending on how well the bike has been taken care of - which I have no way of telling). I am personally more incline towards the 90 because I believe that the miles actually represent actual usage, therefore the bike might have not been sitting idle too long. I also like the color scheme better on the 90. But an engine rebuild sounds like more work that I can personally handle with my somewhat limited mechanical skills.



    I am sure that I can make reasonable offers to both sellers, as both are price above NADA values.



    As a third option, there is a 2008 with 700 miles with new hand guards and new O-Ring chain for $3000 (Seller is firm on the price)



    I already have 3 bikes. A DL1000 VStrom as my Touring 2up bike, an R6 for a bit of fun in the twisties and a 99 R6 Track/Race Ready for fun at the track.

    I've been meaning to add a motorcross / dirt road bike to the stable and the TW200 seems the right piece of equipment. But when I see the price in the 3k range I start looking elsewhere, as you can get, for example, a 2002 and up used Suzuki DRZ400 liquid cool bike for less than $3k.



    I understand that 2001+ have front disk break, chain adjuster, electric start. But if everything else is equal I can save $2,000 going with pre 2001 models.



    Thanks for any help or advice.



    Boret

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    I recently looked at an 89 with 1700 miles for $1,100 and passed on it. The bike was in surprisingly good condition but there were several little things wrong with it, none of them deal killers but all added up, if I were to fix everything I probably would have spent $300 or so in parts and several hours of my time. Perhaps what finally made we walk away was the original tires, while there was no apparent rot, old tires are just that, old tires and the thought of having a tire blow at 55 or somewhere out on a remote trail isn't real comforting. That said I think I'll be looking for something less than 10 years old that I can enjoy riding without having to spend time fixing. Just one guys thoughts, I've fixed enough bikes, now I'm more interested in riding them.

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    Thanks for the replay AlaskaTdub!



    Probably the 87 has original knobby tires, with only 2000 miles I doubt the owner changed them. But the 90 with 12500 miles probably has "newer" rubber. It also includes a complete set of wheels (rims and enduro-street tires). 2000 miles in 23 years!! That´s about 10-11 full tanks of gas for it's lifetime, or about 1 visit to the gas station every 2 years! lol



    I guess at the end of the day, prior to testing both of them, my only concern is will I have more problems with a "newer" TW200 with 12500 miles or an older 87 with only 2000 miles?



    I think I am already more inclined to get the 90 than the 87 mainly on liking the paint colors better and the extra set of wheels.

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    I had the same delimma. I bought the '87. Before I got to really ride it cost me another $280 for a ignition module. I want to ride , so I bought a low milage '08 for $2,800.........then another form my wife. Sold the '87.



    Just think that '08 has 12,000 miles less than that '90. Wouldn't you like to have ridden those?



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    Depending on where you live and how large the population is, I'd suggest you might do better. In this economy folks are having a hard time selling used bikes. A pal of mine just acquired an 08 with about 500 miles for only $2450.00. Right now Yamaha is offering 3.9% financing for 3 years and dealers are sitting on inventory - even Tdubs.
    2007 TW "Muley": Cyclerack rear, 55 tooth rear sprocket, Duro Power Grip & Shinko SR241, Clarke tank, Ricochet bash plate, Mule hitch pin quick seat removal, Trail Tech Vapor w/ Dashboard, hardwired Garmin 60csx & 205w, 12vdc adaptor, independent high beam off/on and signal beeper, modified seat.

    2000 Yamaha V-star 650 Custom - [sold]

    2009 Yamaha WR250R - "Willie Boy" the slimmer faster brother of my Muley.

    2009 Hidden Content . Wow, what fun on the highway!

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    That's a good point JS5owner. However, I just thought of it like an extra toy in the stable. A fun toy, but didn't want to spend a lot of money on it.

    I do like the kick start on the older models, and I haven't read that many bad things about the front drum brake given the low top speed of the bike.

    My local dealer has it for $3500, that will amount to about $4k+ with tax. Maybe I can get it for $3500 with tax. Just seems quite a bit.



    I got my Suzuki Vstrom DL1000 two years ago, an 03, with 2100 miles, for 4 grand. I can't bring myself to pay the same for an air cooled 200cc.



    I agree Hightime, I am kind of rethinking my take on the bikes, I am pretty sure the 90 with 12,500 miles will need some engine work. I contacted the owner and he mentioned a history of 3 owners and not much as far as service records. Chances are it needs at least new rings.



    The 87 with only 2,000 miles.... if I can make sure there isn't rust in the fuel tank we are talking about a fairly new motor.



    What are the main things I should look at in such an old bike?



    I am sure the seller might take 700 to 800 for it. At least that's what I am willing to offer. At that point all I need to do is drive 100 miles with my trailer and pick it up! I am sure it will be a blast.

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    The other thing.... I am extremely surprise at how well these bikes keep their value, it's pretty amazing.

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    I think you'll like it. I've had a '65 SS 90 Honda, '65 Allstate 175, Honda CL 175, Honda 50, Suzuki 250 Savage, two Suzuki 90's, 650 Yami Special, Suzuki RE-5 rotory, '79 GL 1000, '81 GL 1100, two GL 1200's, two GL 1500's, Valkyrie Interstate, Three other TW 200's, a side car rig, Three scooters, a IT 500 Yami, another CL 175 and a CL 200 and I missed a few. Now I've settled in on TW's for my finish. No other bikes for me. TW's do the speed limit on most two lane roads and still go off road pretty well. It all spells great adventure.



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    Thanks Owen!

    I am actually looking forward to getting one, but I can be patient and wait for the right deal.

    Do you think is a bad idea to get the 87 with 2k miles?

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    I have an '87 with about 12,500 miles and it is running strong. It had 2500 miles on it when I bought it 2 years ago. No rebuild in the near future. That being said I like the idea of a second set of wheels. Take a flash light and look inside the tank. If you see rust it is a bargaining point. (BTW, I can see rust inside my tank -- it is not a problem). Smell the gas. If it smells like shellac or varnish a major cleaning is in order of the entire fuel system -- gas cap to carburetor gasket. Look at the chain and sprockets. If they have been neglected it is more off the selling price.



    I have never bought a used vehicle that didn't require something soon after I bought it. Water pump, generator, brakes, etc. I have come to expect it and I try to get the seller to lower the price to cover that expense. Do the same with one of those TW's. If you can get it for $200 less than asking price the savings is going to take care of the problem if you can do the labor.



    Good luck. Keep us posted as to what happens.
    Long live the internal combustion engine!

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