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    just wondering about this process, Im sure its different depending on where you are but Ive always heard for around $100 here in Oklahoma you could get a title for a bike that had a lost title, I have always been leary of this idea but I was wondering if anyone has tried it, I see motorcycles for sale on craigslist that I may be interested in if they had titles, for example I talked to a guy today that has a 95 TW with 2k miles for sale asking $500 of course he doesnt have a title which counts me out on the purchase, but if it was possible to afforadbly obtain a new title I may be able to rationalize such an idea...any thoughts? i think in the back of my mind im always affraid something is stolen
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    Your state looks to be tough on vehichles without titles. Here is their answer to your question.

    If Im not mistaken lost title must be your own, that is to say already in your name.



    Now reading off that same site under the general "titles" page I did see where it said they now require atv's and the like to be titled and existing ones would be titled at the owners expense. In theory you could buy it, title it as a dirtbike, and then up it to street legal in later paperwork. I dont know if they would require a mso for that or not.



    Either way more trouble than its worth in your case IMO. I just recieved my title in the mail a week or two ago from the exact same situation. Im in Alabama and used the Vermont title service. State of Alabama figured it out and gave me the run around for a while. But got it!
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    For $500 it might make a great parts bike.
    Long live the internal combustion engine!

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    Support your local [s]drug addict[/s] motorcycle thief--the next motorcycle for sale without a title might be yours.



    If titles were easy to get, bikes would not be sold without them.




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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty View Post
    Support your local [s]drug addict[/s] motorcycle thief--the next motorcycle for sale without a title might be yours.



    If titles were easy to get, bikes would not be sold without them.


    I have bought motorcycles without titles (pink slips) and then gone to DMV where they do their thing (one of which is to see if it is stolen) and I do mine and when it is over I walk out with the title.



    For sure not as simple as that. Sometimes long waits in line, multiple visits, maybe even bring the bike to DMV for them to verify numbers but in the end it is titled in my name. It is really no big deal if you are willing to jump through some hoops.



    Or for $435 go to http://www.getnewtitle.com/ and let them do the work. You are still into it for less than a grand if they get the title and if not you get your money back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    I have bought motorcycles without titles (pink slips) and then gone to DMV where they do their thing (one of which is to see if it is stolen) and I do mine and when it is over I walk out with the title.



    For sure not as simple as that. Sometimes long waits in line, multiple visits, maybe even bring the bike to DMV for them to verify numbers but in the end it is titled in my name. It is really no big deal if you are willing to jump through some hoops.



    Or for $435 go to http://www.getnewtitle.com/ and let them do the work. You are still into it for less than a grand if they get the title and if not you get your money back.
    Support your local [s]drug addict[/s] motorcycle thief--the next motorcycle for sale without a title might be yours.



    In many states it is illegal to sell a motorcycle, truck, car, or boat without a title. In some states, it is illegal to buy a motorcycle, truck, car, or boat without a title. It'd be tough to take an untitled bike in for inspection and get yourself cuffed for possessing stolen property.



    From http://www.tn.gov/revenue/vehicle/ti...duptitle.shtml :



    An Application for a Duplicate Certificate of Title may be filed through the Department of Revenue, Vehicle Services Section either in person or by mail. Office hours for this service are 8 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. When filing in person, you must furnish two forms of identification (Tenn. Code Ann. 55-2-107), one of which must be a photo identification such as a drivers license or valid passport. For more information on acceptable proofs of identification, click here. If someone other than the owner of the vehicle files, they must show proof of identification and have a notarized power of attorney from the owner.



    The cost for a duplicate title is $5.50. Please make your check payable to the Tennessee Department of Revenue. Do not send cash. Please send the completed application form, $5.50 fee, and any discharge of lien (if applicable) to:



    Tennessee Department of Revenue

    Taxpayer and Vehicle Services Division

    Vehicle Services Section

    44 Vantage Way, Suite 160

    Nashville, TN 37243-8050




    By "owner", the state means the person to whom the vehicle is titled, not the seller. This process m ust be completed before the next step, from http://www.tn.gov/revenue/vehicle/ti...resident.shtml :



    To title and register your new vehicle, you will need to submit to your resident county clerk the following:

    •Manufacturer's Statement of Origin,

    •the new vehicle's invoice and

    •a copy of your current registration if transferring your license plate



    To title and register a used vehicle, submit to your resident county clerk the following:

    •a valid certificate of title properly assigned along with an Odometer Disclosure Statement, if applicable

    •a copy of the current registration if transferring your license plate



    Please note: You will need to provide proof of identification and proof of residency when titling and registering your vehicle. You can find acceptable documents using the charts below (available in English and Spanish).

    •Acceptable Proof of Identification Chart

    •Pruebas Aceptables de Identificaciòn

    •Acceptable Proof of Residency Chart

    •Pruebas Aceptables de Residencia del Estado de Tennessee



    Click here to find your county clerk's office.




    If the person to whom the vehicle is titled isn't known or available, you might get a title in another state by committing perjury and then you'll need to



    An application for Certificate of Title and Registration must be filed through the office of your local county clerk. If your county of residence requires emission testing, the vehicle will need to be tested for emissions first and then you will need go to your local county clerk's office and pay the required fees. Click here for locations and hours of operation of emissions testing facilities.



    You will need to take with you the passed emissions certificate (if applicable), the most current out-of-state registration and the name and address of the lien holder to whom you are making payments. If you do not have a lien holder, you must furnish your out of state title.



    Please note: You will need to provide proof of identification and proof of residency when titling and registering your vehicle. You can find acceptable documents using the charts below (available in English and Spanish).

    •Acceptable Proof of Identification Chart

    •Pruebas Aceptables de Identificación para Obtener T*tulos y Registros

    •Acceptable Proof of Residency Chart

    •Pruebas Aceptables de Residencia del Estado de Tennessee




    which really isn't such a problem if the title is in your name.



    Of course, you might find a crooked dealer willing to



    Note: Private individuals are not allowed to do this process.



    What is an Abandoned/Immobile or Unattended Vehicle?



    Abandoned, means (Tenn. Code Ann. Section 55-16-103(1)), a motor vehicle that:

    A.Is over four years old and is left unattended on public property for more than ten days;

    B.Is in obvious state of disrepair and is left unattended on public property for more than three days;

    C.Has remained illegally on public property for a period of more than 48 hours;

    D.Has remained on private property without consent of the owner or person in control of the property for more than 48 hours; or

    E. Has been stored, parked or left in a garage, trailer park, or any type of storage or parking lot for more than 30 consecutive days.



    Immobile, means (Tenn. Code Ann. 55-16-103(3)):

    •Any motor vehicle, trailer, semi-trailer, or combination or part of a motor vehicle, trailer, or semi-trailer that is immobilized and incapable of moving under its own power due to an accident, mechanical breakdown, weather conditions or other emergency situation.



    Unattended vehicle, means (Tenn. Code Ann. 56-16-103(7)):

    •Any motor vehicle, trailer, sem-itrailer, or combination or part of a motor vehicle, trailer, or semi-trailer that is on public or private property, unattended by the owner or authorized driver, and interferes with or impedes the orderly flow of traffic, or a motor vehicle that is unattended by reason of the arrest of the driver of such motor vehicle.



    Procedures for Abandoned/Immobile or Unattended Vehicles:

    1.The requester must submit a Request For Verification Ownership On Vehicles Found Abandoned/Immobile Or Unattended form completed in its entirety within three business days after taking the vehicle into custody, including signature of the authorized representative making the request. (Tenn. Code Ann. Section 55-16-105)

    2.This form may be mailed to the Department of Revenue, Vehicle Services Section, 44 Vantage Way, Suite 160, Nashville, TN 37243, with the appropriate fee of $1 per request, or it can be submitted in person (at the same address). (Tenn. Code Ann. Section 55-2-106)

    3.Furnish written authorization for the towing of each vehicle from Law Enforcement with appropriate jurisdiction, or from the owner of the vehicle, (or the authorized agent of the owner) of the private property from which the vehicle is to be towed. (Tenn. Code Ann. 55-16-105)

    4.Once the request is submitted, the Department of Revenue will process this form and return it to the requestor with the owner and/or lienholder information if available. (Tenn. Code Ann. Section 55-16-105)

    5.The requester must send a notice to the vehicle owner within three business days after receiving verification of ownership, as well as any lienholders listed, and/or any other person who claims interest in this vehicle. If an out-of-state record exists, it will be provided. Then, an inquiry must be sent to that state for owner and/or lienholder information. Notices must be sent within 15 days of receiving possession of such vehicle. The notices must be sent by registered mail, return receipt requested or, if delivered in person, a notarized affidavit naming the person who delivered and specified time, place and manner of giving notice. (Tenn. Code Ann. Section 55-16-105)



    6.The notice must include the complete description of the vehicle, an itemized statement of charges, and have a specified due date for payment to be received that is not less than ten days from the delivery of the notice. (Tenn. Code Ann. Section 55-16-105)

    7.The requester may not charge more than 60 days for storage without the consent of the owner's and/or lienholders. Notification must be sent by registered mail, return receipt requested, of the intent to charge a storage fee for a period to exceed 60 days. (Tenn. Code Ann. Sections 55-23-103, 55-23-104)

    8.In the event there is no response to the notices by registered mail and/or the amount owed is not paid by the specified time in the notice, the vehicle shall be advertised for sale at auction, at a specified time and place. The advertisement should be placed once in a newspaper of general circulation in the area where the vehicle was abandoned, immobile, or unattended. The sale shall not be held less than 15 days from the time of first publication. (Tenn. Code Ann. Section 55-16-105)

    9.If there is no newspaper published in the place where the sale is to be held, the advertisement shall be posted at least ten days before the sale in not less than six conspicuous places in public areas in the area where the vehicle is to be sold. (Tenn Code Ann. Section 66-14-104)

    10.If the vehicle has been stored, parked or left in a garage, trailer park, or any type of storage lot for more than 30 consecutive days the requester must submit in writing the make and vehicle identification number of such motor vehicle to the Department of Revenue on Part B of the Request For Verification Of Ownership On Vehicles Found Abandoned/Immobile Or Unattended form. Only Part B may be faxed to the Department of Revenue at (615) 253-4259. This must be received by the Department of Revenue before the vehicle is sold at auction. (Tenn. Code Ann. Section 55-16-106(a))

    11.After the auction of the vehicle, the purchaser will make application through the county clerk to title and register the vehicle. The following documents are required: (Tenn. Code Ann. Sections 55-3-101, 55-4-101)

    •Request For Verification Of Ownership On Vehicles Found Abandoned/Immobile Or Unattended from the requester processed by the Department of Revenue, Research Unit

    •Certificate of Sales Under Special Conditions completed in it's entirety.

    •Registered mail receipts to all parties involved

    •A copy of the newspaper sale advertisement for the vehicle, or a notarized affidavit attesting to the six conspicuous postings of the sale information in a public place, along with a copy of the actual posted advertisement, if applicable

    •Itemized statement of storage and/or towing fees owed

    •Odometer statement, if applicable





    Special Note: If any estimate or repair has been made, you must apply for a Garagekeeper's Lien. This would not fall under the Abandoned Vehicle Law.



    References: Tenn. Code Ann Sections 55-2-106, 55-3-101, 55-4-101, 55-16-101-55-16-106, 55-23-103, 55-23-104 and 66-14-102, 66-19-103





    for a fee, with the knowledge that if the vehicle comes back stolen you could face arrest for fraud, possessing stolen property, etc. Just a few hoops? Not worth the effort. In any case, you're still likely to be supporting the local crackhead thief.




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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty View Post
    Support your local [s]drug addict[/s] motorcycle thief--the next motorcycle for sale without a title might be yours.



    In many states it is illegal to sell a motorcycle, truck, car, or boat without a title. In some states, it is illegal to buy a motorcycle, truck, car, or boat without a title. It'd be tough to take an untitled bike in for inspection and get yourself cuffed for possessing stolen property.



    From http://www.tn.gov/re.../duptitle.shtml :



    An Application for a Duplicate Certificate of Title may be filed through the Department of Revenue, Vehicle Services Section either in person or by mail. Office hours for this service are 8 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. When filing in person, you must furnish two forms of identification (Tenn. Code Ann. 55-2-107), one of which must be a photo identification such as a drivers license or valid passport. For more information on acceptable proofs of identification, click here. If someone other than the owner of the vehicle files, they must show proof of identification and have a notarized power of attorney from the owner.



    The cost for a duplicate title is $5.50. Please make your check payable to the Tennessee Department of Revenue. Do not send cash. Please send the completed application form, $5.50 fee, and any discharge of lien (if applicable) to:



    Tennessee Department of Revenue

    Taxpayer and Vehicle Services Division

    Vehicle Services Section

    44 Vantage Way, Suite 160

    Nashville, TN 37243-8050




    By "owner", the state means the person to whom the vehicle is titled, not the seller. This process m ust be completed before the next step, from http://www.tn.gov/re...nresident.shtml :



    To title and register your new vehicle, you will need to submit to your resident county clerk the following:

    •Manufacturer's Statement of Origin,

    •the new vehicle's invoice and

    •a copy of your current registration if transferring your license plate



    To title and register a used vehicle, submit to your resident county clerk the following:

    •a valid certificate of title properly assigned along with an Odometer Disclosure Statement, if applicable

    •a copy of the current registration if transferring your license plate



    Please note: You will need to provide proof of identification and proof of residency when titling and registering your vehicle. You can find acceptable documents using the charts below (available in English and Spanish).

    •Acceptable Proof of Identification Chart

    •Pruebas Aceptables de Identificaciòn

    •Acceptable Proof of Residency Chart

    •Pruebas Aceptables de Residencia del Estado de Tennessee



    Click here to find your county clerk's office.




    If the person to whom the vehicle is titled isn't known or available, you might get a title in another state by committing perjury and then you'll need to



    An application for Certificate of Title and Registration must be filed through the office of your local county clerk. If your county of residence requires emission testing, the vehicle will need to be tested for emissions first and then you will need go to your local county clerk's office and pay the required fees. Click here for locations and hours of operation of emissions testing facilities.



    You will need to take with you the passed emissions certificate (if applicable), the most current out-of-state registration and the name and address of the lien holder to whom you are making payments. If you do not have a lien holder, you must furnish your out of state title.



    Please note: You will need to provide proof of identification and proof of residency when titling and registering your vehicle. You can find acceptable documents using the charts below (available in English and Spanish).

    •Acceptable Proof of Identification Chart

    •Pruebas Aceptables de Identificación para Obtener T*tulos y Registros

    •Acceptable Proof of Residency Chart

    •Pruebas Aceptables de Residencia del Estado de Tennessee




    which really isn't such a problem if the title is in your name.



    Of course, you might find a crooked dealer willing to



    Note: Private individuals are not allowed to do this process.



    What is an Abandoned/Immobile or Unattended Vehicle?



    Abandoned, means (Tenn. Code Ann. Section 55-16-103(1)), a motor vehicle that:

    A.Is over four years old and is left unattended on public property for more than ten days;

    B.Is in obvious state of disrepair and is left unattended on public property for more than three days;

    C.Has remained illegally on public property for a period of more than 48 hours;

    D.Has remained on private property without consent of the owner or person in control of the property for more than 48 hours; or

    E. Has been stored, parked or left in a garage, trailer park, or any type of storage or parking lot for more than 30 consecutive days.



    Immobile, means (Tenn. Code Ann. 55-16-103(3)):

    •Any motor vehicle, trailer, semi-trailer, or combination or part of a motor vehicle, trailer, or semi-trailer that is immobilized and incapable of moving under its own power due to an accident, mechanical breakdown, weather conditions or other emergency situation.



    Unattended vehicle, means (Tenn. Code Ann. 56-16-103(7)):

    •Any motor vehicle, trailer, sem-itrailer, or combination or part of a motor vehicle, trailer, or semi-trailer that is on public or private property, unattended by the owner or authorized driver, and interferes with or impedes the orderly flow of traffic, or a motor vehicle that is unattended by reason of the arrest of the driver of such motor vehicle.



    Procedures for Abandoned/Immobile or Unattended Vehicles:

    1.The requester must submit a Request For Verification Ownership On Vehicles Found Abandoned/Immobile Or Unattended form completed in its entirety within three business days after taking the vehicle into custody, including signature of the authorized representative making the request. (Tenn. Code Ann. Section 55-16-105)

    2.This form may be mailed to the Department of Revenue, Vehicle Services Section, 44 Vantage Way, Suite 160, Nashville, TN 37243, with the appropriate fee of $1 per request, or it can be submitted in person (at the same address). (Tenn. Code Ann. Section 55-2-106)

    3.Furnish written authorization for the towing of each vehicle from Law Enforcement with appropriate jurisdiction, or from the owner of the vehicle, (or the authorized agent of the owner) of the private property from which the vehicle is to be towed. (Tenn. Code Ann. 55-16-105)

    4.Once the request is submitted, the Department of Revenue will process this form and return it to the requestor with the owner and/or lienholder information if available. (Tenn. Code Ann. Section 55-16-105)

    5.The requester must send a notice to the vehicle owner within three business days after receiving verification of ownership, as well as any lienholders listed, and/or any other person who claims interest in this vehicle. If an out-of-state record exists, it will be provided. Then, an inquiry must be sent to that state for owner and/or lienholder information. Notices must be sent within 15 days of receiving possession of such vehicle. The notices must be sent by registered mail, return receipt requested or, if delivered in person, a notarized affidavit naming the person who delivered and specified time, place and manner of giving notice. (Tenn. Code Ann. Section 55-16-105)



    6.The notice must include the complete description of the vehicle, an itemized statement of charges, and have a specified due date for payment to be received that is not less than ten days from the delivery of the notice. (Tenn. Code Ann. Section 55-16-105)

    7.The requester may not charge more than 60 days for storage without the consent of the owner's and/or lienholders. Notification must be sent by registered mail, return receipt requested, of the intent to charge a storage fee for a period to exceed 60 days. (Tenn. Code Ann. Sections 55-23-103, 55-23-104)

    8.In the event there is no response to the notices by registered mail and/or the amount owed is not paid by the specified time in the notice, the vehicle shall be advertised for sale at auction, at a specified time and place. The advertisement should be placed once in a newspaper of general circulation in the area where the vehicle was abandoned, immobile, or unattended. The sale shall not be held less than 15 days from the time of first publication. (Tenn. Code Ann. Section 55-16-105)

    9.If there is no newspaper published in the place where the sale is to be held, the advertisement shall be posted at least ten days before the sale in not less than six conspicuous places in public areas in the area where the vehicle is to be sold. (Tenn Code Ann. Section 66-14-104)

    10.If the vehicle has been stored, parked or left in a garage, trailer park, or any type of storage lot for more than 30 consecutive days the requester must submit in writing the make and vehicle identification number of such motor vehicle to the Department of Revenue on Part B of the Request For Verification Of Ownership On Vehicles Found Abandoned/Immobile Or Unattended form. Only Part B may be faxed to the Department of Revenue at (615) 253-4259. This must be received by the Department of Revenue before the vehicle is sold at auction. (Tenn. Code Ann. Section 55-16-106(a))

    11.After the auction of the vehicle, the purchaser will make application through the county clerk to title and register the vehicle. The following documents are required: (Tenn. Code Ann. Sections 55-3-101, 55-4-101)

    •Request For Verification Of Ownership On Vehicles Found Abandoned/Immobile Or Unattended from the requester processed by the Department of Revenue, Research Unit

    •Certificate of Sales Under Special Conditions completed in it's entirety.

    •Registered mail receipts to all parties involved

    •A copy of the newspaper sale advertisement for the vehicle, or a notarized affidavit attesting to the six conspicuous postings of the sale information in a public place, along with a copy of the actual posted advertisement, if applicable

    •Itemized statement of storage and/or towing fees owed

    •Odometer statement, if applicable





    Special Note: If any estimate or repair has been made, you must apply for a Garagekeeper's Lien. This would not fall under the Abandoned Vehicle Law.



    References: Tenn. Code Ann Sections 55-2-106, 55-3-101, 55-4-101, 55-16-101-55-16-106, 55-23-103, 55-23-104 and 66-14-102, 66-19-103





    for a fee, with the knowledge that if the vehicle comes back stolen you could face arrest for fraud, possessing stolen property, etc. Just a few hoops? Not worth the effort. In any case, you're still likely to be supporting the local crackhead thief.


    Gee whiz! Take a chill pill and relax man. If it makes you happy, YOU WIN!
    Long live the internal combustion engine!

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    My wife did it for her '07 Honda metropolitan and according to her it was a royal pain in Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    Gee whiz! Take a chill pill and relax man. If it makes you happy, YOU WIN!
    Typical Californicator wanting to cure his mental problem by having someone else do drugs.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiway View Post
    My wife did it for her '07 Honda metropolitan and according to her it was a royal pain in Texas.


    That was my experience the first time through but once I "learned the ropes" it was much easier on subsequent vehicles.
    Long live the internal combustion engine!

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