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    Senior Member stephenmarklay's Avatar
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    I think the TW200 is about the perfect bike for me. It will be my first bike and I am 42. I am buying it mostly to save on gas and reduce debt load (selling car but share with my wife when I need a car) to start a business next year.



    I will commute on the bike in decent weather. Almost always around our town with lots of 25-45mph zones. Very limited highway - maybe 10 miles once a week but not even essential but would help for schedules. I will put a rack and bags on it for running to the store and taking clothes to the gym and work.



    Dirt riding would be likely only dirt roads for fun. I really doubt any trail bike riding since I just don't have friends into it. Not that I would not enjoy it.



    To me the TW200 is a perfect step from getting a scooter. The horrible pot holes and road conditions make me think a cute scooter would be eaten alive.



    However, I have seen a few other bikes like today on CL I see a KLX250 as well as a WR250X for a more (and XT250's etc come up too) for about the same price. I know its a better bike. Better trans better suspension better cooling... However, the only true day to day upside is the greater top speed which would allow a bit better highway travel. The down seems to be a little more bike to handle, potentially not as "easy" to ride and not handle as well on road with the relative skinny tires.



    I am 6'0 so I think I can handle a taller bike ok. However, I may at times pick up my 7 year old from school or whatever and that may be just a bit harder for her to mount (although I will likely just lift her up).



    Any thoughts are appreciated.
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    My brother lives in Hayden Lake.



    I think the TW would be a great choice for the Federal Forest lands around.



    2 wheel vehicles are a family like go carts and dump trucks are 4 wheel vehicles.



    Assuming you have limited experience it would be great starter

    keep her or trade up in the future so it isn't life or death decision now

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    I would vote for the TW.

    Yes, the KL and WR are "better" in some ways but worse in others.

    I have a DR650 as well as a TW200.

    For around town rides, the TW is much more "fun/easier/enjoyable"

    Just like a scooter is so simple, the TW is simple compared to almost all other bikes.

    The small wheels, the low seat, low weight, low center of gravity, the smile factor.



    It will be much easier to get comfortable riding on than any other bike, other than a scooter.

    Just about any other bike will be faster than a TW but we don't enjoy our TW's by racing (usually, although some do!).



    The TW is much more versatile I believe.

    I am 6'-4" 200lbs and really enjoy short hops on my TW.

    Longer trips are certainly possible but I usually ride the DR if highway is involved.
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    Remember the gas mileage on the other bikes you mentioned would be worse than the TW also. If you mainly do city driving a change in sprockets can almost net you 90mpg from what I hear.



    I too was thinking of getting a 150cc scooter, but with the versatility the TW offers and my 10 year old doesn't mind a ride from school on it (since the kids think it's cool) I have a great way to get to work, great way to do some errands, and a fun new hobby (trail riding. All in one package!

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    If you don't need to go faster than 50 mph for extended periods of time the TW is perfect. Plenty of power up to 50; you might just fall short of "beating" the jackass 20 year old in his loud piped wannabe race car, but you'll have no trouble keeping up with the flow.



    The bigger tires feel funny compared to small tires, but once you get used to them you'll find the handling is great and knowing the traction is there makes you feel better too. I don't know why they put such small tires on on/off road bikes, especially the 650's. I'd love to get an XR650L but I don't really trust those small tires in the corners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephenmarklay View Post
    I think the TW200 is about the perfect bike for me. It will be my first bike and I am 42. I am buying it mostly to save on gas and reduce debt load (selling car but share with my wife when I need a car) to start a business next year.



    I will commute on the bike in decent weather. Almost always around our town with lots of 25-45mph zones. Very limited highway - maybe 10 miles once a week but not even essential but would help for schedules. I will put a rack and bags on it for running to the store and taking clothes to the gym and work.



    Dirt riding would be likely only dirt roads for fun. I really doubt any trail bike riding since I just don't have friends into it. Not that I would not enjoy it.



    To me the TW200 is a perfect step from getting a scooter. The horrible pot holes and road conditions make me think a cute scooter would be eaten alive.



    However, I have seen a few other bikes like today on CL I see a KLX250 as well as a WR250X for a more (and XT250's etc come up too) for about the same price. I know its a better bike. Better trans better suspension better cooling... However, the only true day to day upside is the greater top speed which would allow a bit better highway travel. The down seems to be a little more bike to handle, potentially not as "easy" to ride and not handle as well on road with the relative skinny tires.



    I am 6'0 so I think I can handle a taller bike ok. However, I may at times pick up my 7 year old from school or whatever and that may be just a bit harder for her to mount (although I will likely just lift her up).



    Any thoughts are appreciated.




    The 'best' bike is the one that suits your needs. For what you need in a bike ... the 'TW' will be the 'best' bike you've ever had, and because it is your first bike, you may even have to ride a few others to realize just how 'best' the TW really is ;-)



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    Well the $.$$ may answer the question... I took a visit to a dealer. They have 2 2010 TW200 and the best out the door with tax etc is $4700+ I have one dealer at 4650 for a 2012 and another at 5300. Its just not THAT much bike. I am really amazed that the dealer with 2 2010's is not more motivated.



    However, just today they took in a 2006 KLX250 with 650 miles. Looks new. They want $3100 for that out the door with tax, license and title. They would save me some real money.



    I did sit on A TW as well as an XT. With my longish legs the XT felt a tad better for space. They had a CFR230M to that felt small with its small tires. Another mystery as its an 09 on the floor with a couple hundred bucks knocked off.



    I may just do the KLX but I am already starting to like you guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephenmarklay View Post
    Well the $.$$ may answer the question... I took a visit to a dealer. They have 2 2010 TW200 and the best out the door with tax etc is $4700+ I have one dealer at 4650 for a 2012 and another at 5300. Its just not THAT much bike. I am really amazed that the dealer with 2 2010's is not more motivated.



    However, just today they took in a 2006 KLX250 with 650 miles. Looks new. They want $3100 for that out the door with tax, license and title. They would save me some real money.



    I did sit on A TW as well as an XT. With my longish legs the XT felt a tad better for space. They had a CFR230M to that felt small with its small tires. Another mystery as its an 09 on the floor with a couple hundred bucks knocked off.



    I may just do the KLX but I am already starting to like you guys




    Those prices seem high. I saw a 2012 TW in Rockwall, TX dealer for 4000 before TT&L. There are other threads showing some great deals even better than that. Don't get too impatient and make sure you do your homework before committing. I'd recommend shopping nationally and consider shipping costs to make a fair evaluation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiway View Post
    Those prices seem high. I saw a 2012 TW in Rockwall, TX dealer for 4000 before TT&L. There are other threads showing some great deals even better than that. Don't get too impatient and make sure you do your homework before committing. I'd recommend shopping nationally and consider shipping costs to make a fair evaluation.


    They are high for sure. The best I have on a 2011 is 4050+348 for tax (We are 8.7%) If I could get someone to do even 4k with everything I would think hard. The KLX will save me 1300 over the best deal and is less than the only used TW right now local which is 3200 with more miles.
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    Don't forget to factor in the maintenace costs, the TW is easy on the pocket book when you look at the long term costs. There is also the resale value of the TW if you ever wanted to go back to a car (once you have owned a TW, you can never go back!). And more important is the fun factor.. priceless, and if you are starting your own business you will need it for de-stressing. If you can get your dealer down to 4K, you will never regret the purchase.
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