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    Reliability

    Interesting to see who is on the bottom

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    2014 Honda CB1100
    2018 Yamaha XT250
    2016 Moto Guzzi V7 II
    2017 Yamaha TW200
    2012 Triumph Bonneville
    2002 H-D Sportster 1200 Sport
    2003 H-D Sportster 883
    1976 Honda CB750F
    1975 Honda CB360
    1970 Yamaha CT1
    1972 Yamaha CT2
    1972 Yamaha AT2/CT2
    1970 Honda SL350
    1970 Honda CL350
    1967 Honda CL160
    1967 Honda CB160
    1962 Honda CA110

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    You can make a bike more comfortable but it is hard to make one more reliable from the dealer.
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    I liked demo-riding a Can-Am a few years ago. I had to wait a little while for the one I liked because it was the only model they made that was actually a manual shift. And even then it was not true cable and wire manual shift. Most Can-Am buyers have passed onto the no-shifting phase in their life and it really is a luxury recreational vehicle.

    The salespeople went over the five (5) computers that synchronize with each other to make the bike run harmoniously. Dazzled by the technology but also wary of investing in something that I might never really be able to do anything to but bolt-on accessories. I've read some of the owner complaints and I think sometimes CR picks up on things (like motorcycles) that they really don't know much about. Basically owners are, when things go wrong, slaves to the service dept of a dealer forever.
    Bottom line is I did like the ride but don't see one ever in my garage. They had just come out with a larger displacement motor which made all the original 900cc (I think) Can-Ams basically obsolete. You can pick just a few years older ones up pretty cheap now. They were not cheap new which also drive owner remorse. New BMW and other European "exotic's" are in the same boat.
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    My post on another forum in regards to reliability.

    I've owned a few of each, BMW, Yamaha, Kawasaki, and a handful of Suzukis. My buddies with KTMs were enough to keep me away and my experience with BMW has got me to where the only ones I'd consider would be older ones such as the 1100/1500/K75 for example. A BMW has been the only bike to ever leave me stranded (knock on wood) in 500,000 to a million total miles on two wheels and that happened twice. Both were charging system related on a F800ST. A stator failure and a regulator rectifier failure.

    Later I would learn of the design flaws in the F bike charging systems that caused it. Problems that BMW never admitted to but quietly changed part numbers and made changes mid year to their production line to fix the problem that didn't exist. 1000 dollars worth of parts to fix it if you went OEM.

    Every bike out there has a list of problems, the existance of forums such as this one make the issues easy to find. The question is which ones have the problems that are easiest for the end user to fix, and which ones are going to clean out your savings account to fix?
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    Well, I must be lucky. I put 25,000 miles on a 2012 BMW F650GS with not the tiniest glitch, 16,000 miles on a 2010 TW200 with the same, and now 26,000 miles on my 2014 BMW R1200GS without any issues, not even the slightest annoyance. Everything worked perfectly all the time.

    I read all the threads over the years and expected to at least have a problem now and then, NONE of which ever materialized. I do take extremely thorough care of all my bikes, just as if they were airplanes, and I think that has something to do with it.
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    I'm not surprised to see the Spyder at the bottom. A friend of mine bought one new for $36000. and was happy to see it go by the end of the season for $18000. Nothing but stupid problems and the handling was terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyTFS View Post
    Well, I must be lucky. I put 25,000 miles on a 2012 BMW F650GS with not the tiniest glitch...and now 26,000 miles on my 2014 BMW R1200GS without any issues, not even the slightest annoyance. Everything worked perfectly all the time.

    I do take extremely thorough care of all my bikes, just as if they were airplanes, and I think that has something to do with it.
    Care likely improves longevity, but a failed component is probably independent of care.
    Glad you are in the 60% who had no issues by year 4.
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    2017 Yamaha TW200
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    1976 Honda CB750F
    1975 Honda CB360
    1970 Yamaha CT1
    1972 Yamaha CT2
    1972 Yamaha AT2/CT2
    1970 Honda SL350
    1970 Honda CL350
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    Go Yamaha!!
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    My BMW R1150GS Adventure served two owners before me, and has served me well without failure with 124,000 miles now on it. Major repairs were performed halfway through its current life, with a complete final drive replacement. It's a great long distance adventure machine on and off road. Sad to see BMW practically at the bottom of the reliability list. The T-Dub is pure fun and can go places the huge Beemer would be too risky to go by myself. Plus, though it may not be the comfort couch the BMW is, and is gutless powerwise, it's light, low, and you don't worry about laying it down and crushing your body to death with it (laid both bikes now... still truckin'!). It's nice to be fortunate enough to own two bikes, one large, strong and capable, one light, reliable and fun.
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    I personally don't put much stock in what CS put together. They did not account for usage patterns at all. A sport bike that spends its entire life getting the snot beat out of it , or a large ADV bike that spends its life getting pounded off road are going to have much different service histories than a cruiser that just eats up highway miles or hops from bar to bar. They really need to break it down by class vs all bikes in general.

    That said. My 2011 Ducati has been one of the most reliable things i have ever owned with a gas engine on it. It has had nothing but oil changes, a valve adjustment and a lot of tires in the 7 years i have owned it. I ride it like it was designed to be ridden and i am yet to break it. I ride with a lot of other guys that have the same model, they have the same experience i have had.
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