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    Senior Member DonBenito's Avatar
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    So, I've been looking at tackling some longer/more remote desert trips in the near future, and as wise forum members have pointed out before I could probably make use of some greater fuel capacity if I'm gonna be heading out that far.



    I already have the rear Cycleracks rack, so the cheapest option is a 1 gal gas can bungeed down. Not super secure, but cheap. I like cheap.

    MSRP: about $5.00 OR $5.00/gal(capacity)

    Pros: Cheaper than dirt

    Cons: May or may not still be there when you run out of gas in your bolted-down tank



    I've also looked at the Clarke 2.7 gal aftermarket tank. Seems to be a fairly simple install, and the natural translucent color provides both a classic enduro look and a handy fuel gauge.

    MSRP: $218.00 from Clarke, $199 from Procycle (Thnx mrbracket!) Still, an astronomical $220.00/gal (capacity)

    Pros: Just fill up and go

    Cons: Your wife wants to know why you're taking up space in the garage storing your old metal TW tank, also kinda crazy expensive for 60-80 extra miles of range (YMMV)



    Paradoxically, the most expensive option I've come up with seems to be the most appealing as well. I should be working for Apple.

    Cycleracks Front Rack: MSRP $154.00

    Cycleracks Bag Supports: MSRP $69.00

    Kolpin Fuel Pack Jr. W/Pack mount: MSRP $57.49 (L side)

    Kolpin Fuel Pack Jr. W/Pack mount: MSRP $57.49 (R Side)



    Total MSRP: $337.98 OR $112.66/gal(capacity)

    Pros: Your bike will look like an expedition-ready fuel-toting monster, and you get more than 3 times the extra fuel capacity offered by a TW-specific Clarke tank

    Cons: You're really gonna miss that $340



    Still, remember that the expensive set up with the front rack and fuel panniers DOES offer more than triple the extra fuel carrying capacity of a TW Clarke tank, and that setup offers additional load-handling options as well. There are also fringe benefits relating to load balance when using the rear rack for luggage, etc.



    Hm, I have a lot to think about.



    What do you guys use for extra fuel, and if you can... break the upgrade down to dollars and cents
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    I do not have a need as of yet to carry extra fuel.I like your more expensive option,it's has more, option potential!.

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    Steel OEM XT350 tank, 3.2 gals. Donor bike purchased for $150, parted out for $500+, net cost + $350 (YMMV), plus the innumerable other XT350 parts swapped onto TW. 1.5 gals over stock TW



    Pros: Bulletproof, removes as easily as the stock tank for service, good to the last drop, uses same locking gas cap as TW, all fuel weight carried where it should be, no rack space consumed.



    Cons: Minor seat mods or "bendy seat" and relocating rear mount. 30 mins., zero dollars.







    Clarke XT350 4.0 gal., same cost as Clarke 2.7 gal. TW tank.



    Pros: Same as steel XT350 tank but 2.2 extra gals. over stock TW. Weighs less, won't rust.



    Cons: Arguably less bulletproof than steel. "Bendy-seat" option likely to cause wear against plastic tank, more committed seat mods.







    Clarke 4.1 gal. XT225 tank. Same cost as



    Pros: Won't rust. Looks cool



    Cons: Not "good to the last drop". Innaccessible fuel in "ears" of tank when mounted on a TW. Less useable fuel than 4.0 XT350 tank.







    Clarke 2.7 gal. TW replacement tank. .9 gals. over stock TW.



    Pros: Nearly a bolt-on, no seat mods, won't rust, lighter than stock tank.



    Cons: PITA to remove for service, won't clear certain bar and riser combos, side cover mods usually required.







    Kolpins, gas cans, number plate tanks, et al.



    Pros: Cheap. Easily removed when not needed.



    Cons: Take up valuable real estate, generally adds weight in all the wrong places, vulnerable to loss or theft.



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    I just completed some rear side racks to carry RotopaX fuel containers. I tried to mount them as low as possible to keep the weight low.





    These are the 1.5gal containers, they come in 1gal and 2gal sizes too.



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    Now that's what I call a reply!



    But seriously, you can't legitimately suggest that the average forum member will be able to purchase and scavenge an XT350 and make a profit!



    Kudos to you, but c'mon! That's a rare deal.



    $120.40/gal(extra capacity) is the going rate for a Clarke XT350 4.0 tank, and by the numbers that's a worse deal than the auxiliary Kolpin tanks.



    Besides, lets consider preserving those classic TW lines for posterity.



    I've noticed that your icon features a stock TW tank as does mine, why mess with perfection?



    Just for the sake of argument!
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    I like those Rotopax containers, but I'm allergic to their price tags!



    Nice mount though, can we look forward to a similar bracket on Procycle soon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonBenito View Post
    I like those Rotopax containers, but I'm allergic to their price tags!



    Nice mount though, can we look forward to a similar bracket on Procycle soon?


    No, too much work making the rack.. I'd have to charge too much to make them... I really like it tho!



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    Can anyone address the DOT legality issues regarding these options? I've read that to be street legal or in DOT compliance, that you must have a steel main tank. In Washington state, you must be street legal to ride on forest service roads. I can't imagine anywhere that I might ride where at least some of my time on any given adventure wouldn't include some forest service roads or pavement. This has me hesitant to try any of the Clarke options and would make me want to go with a steel XT main tank to increase range. I am curious about how affixing plastic auxiliary cans meet the legalities.
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    I've been stopped several times by rangers on National forest land without any problem. My solid color clarke tank does not throw up the red flags that a translucent one would. They have also ignored my kolpin fuel pack bolted to the side of my bike. I worry more about getting caught riding without a Nat forest MVUM. As long as you don't provoke a leo somehow by doing something stupid they are generally very nice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DonBenito View Post
    Now that's what I call a reply!



    But seriously, you can't legitimately suggest that the average forum member will be able to purchase and scavenge an XT350 and make a profit!



    Kudos to you, but c'mon! That's a rare deal.



    $120.40/gal(extra capacity) is the going rate for a Clarke XT350 4.0 tank, and by the numbers that's a worse deal than the auxiliary Kolpin tanks.



    Besides, lets consider preserving those classic TW lines for posterity.



    I've noticed that your icon features a stock TW tank as does mine, why mess with perfection?



    Just for the sake of argument!


    For the record that pic was taken the day I first assembled my bike. I ditched the stock tank less than a month after the initial build.. Barely suitable for watering a potted begonia.



    Full apologies in advance to those using gas cans, fuel paks or those who find the stocker perfectly adequate and have their own reasons for doing so. Just playing devil's advocate biased in favor of the big tank option FIRST as best bang for the buck. You axed for cost-to-benefit and IMO the added capacity shouldn't be your sole consideration, but if it is you've already nailed the 5 dollar bouncing plastic gas can as the best bang for the buck. I think you're mistaken in placing fuel paks, side racks and all their associated bracketry as next in line.



    Ideally (again, IMO) fuel belongs between your legs. Any of the plastic tanks weigh roughly half what the stocker weighs, even those with twice the capacity. Aside from the weight of the fuel itself they add no additional weight to the bike, and are equally slim as the stocker in the areas which matter. No law says you have to fill them to the brim at all times, you don't have to stop to fill them, they don't take up cargo space and ultimately the weight is carried lower on the bike than with most rack mounted options. I'm just saying that there's no PRACTICAL downside to any of the typical big tank options as opposed to those of cans or fuel paks.



    If bang for the buck includes a preferred aesthetic, yer on yer own. Given my own criteria aside from scoring a sweet deal on a steel XT tank the Clarke 4 gallon XT350 tank is the best bang for the buck, the 2.7 barely acceptable but at least it's a gallon you don't have to find a home for elsewhere on the bike, ever. The XT225 tank isn't really in the running due to the innaccessible fuel thing, but if you're big on that particular aesthetic it splits the difference between the steel XT tank and its 4 gallon Clarke counterpart, so that might bump it to #1. Gas cans and fuel paks have their place but only after I hit the 200 mile mark.



    Your front Cyclerack, side racks and two Kolpins easily add up to twice as much weight (and in all the wrong places) and way more munny than a big tank, and a tank won't block yer headlight or land you on your noggin in the rough stuff. 1.8 x 3= 5.4 gals. 4 + 1= 5 gals. Throw a gallon on the rear rack and you're nearly tripling stock capacity without them. Go find a superlight over-the-headlight front rack if you think you'll need more capacity. Because my fuel is in the tank I get all the gear, clothing and tools for two (for two weeks) on my rear rack. The only overflow item is occasionally the second sleeping bag. Other than that a front rack is a nuisance. I've built two, neither is on my bike and for good reason. Trust me, the biggest rack you want up there would be something similar to R80t's latest, and the most weight you'd ever want up there is 3-5 lbs., tops.



    Load balancing is a non-issue unless you plan to haul out a quartered elk. Or hang a two gallon Rotopax off your rear rack 2 feet beyond the rear axle of a loaded TW. Or worse, over the front axle.



    A four gallon tank is exactly $54.50 per gallon by your MSRP. Your stocker will likely fetch a minimum of $100 on the used market if it's in good shape. By my math that brings your total to about $29.50 per gallon. Bounce that against yer Kolpins and you're about even munny.



    It's unfortunate that Acerbis no longer makes the 5 gallon XT600 tank. Believe it or not it's actually as unobtrusive as the stocker and has a good-to-the-last-drop petcock at the lowest point on BOTH sides. Acerbis knows how to build a tank. Clarke just fills the space. But I digress. As usual.



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