Lower seat height
My 45 year old son and I rode TW 200's for years until we moved to an area not good for off road riding. Now that we are back in Oregon we want to start riding again. He thinks he wants something like an XT250 with skinny tires. I am in my 70's and want stability.
COuld anyone who has ridden both types of bikes share what the ride difference is.
Thanks for responding
Lower seat height
What is the ride and handling difference between fat and skinny tires
What I do notice between the two is the XT200 is about 50 lbs. lighter and a bit easier to handle on tight trails. I think the XT250 weighs closer to the TW than my XT200 does. My XT is only slightly taller than the TW but it's not a XT250. I do like the TW's lower seat height most of the time.
The XT250 will have more power if that's what your 45 y.o. son is looking for.
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Skinny tires dig into soft terrain deeper then fat tires. This is an advantage and disadvantage depending on speed and terrain. TW will slide more on loose terrain (like gravel) then a narrow tire, as a narrow tire cuts a line, the wider tire disperses it's weight over a larger area reducing traction. When a skinnier tire digs itself into a hole the TW is more likely to keep rolling.
A skinnier tire can fit into smaller lines offroad and a TW will need to slip you side to side at times when the tire is too wide for the line you chose to ride. The round stock tire is more forgiving for this then a tire with more bite on the corner treads.
TWs large tires give the illusion of greater traction but I suspect it is the low gearing that is less likely to break traction by roosting dirt behind it like other faster bikes. The gearing is easier to control and better suited to lower speeds then most bikes.
TW tires are less likely to get pinch flats and offer a smooth ride that leaves less of a "foot print" then skinnier tires.
If you're already familiar with a TW then it's going to be more comfortable and predictable then any other option.
These bikes appeal mostly to an older demographic for good reasons....easy to ride, fun, and not too fast.
Wide tires sure seem to help me in sand, silt, mud and snow. A few of my riding buddies have XT 225, WR250 & KLX 250 bikes. While their 6 speeds can leave me behind on pavement and faster fire roads I can occasionally traverse sections that cause them grief. But then again their vastly superior suspensions allow them to go much faster and/or safer on medium rough terrain.
While it has been awhile since I rode a skinny tire bike in silt and blow sand I say based on back-to-back experiences that a Duro ATV tire equipped TW is much more stable than a stock TW's rear TrailWing tire.
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For me the place where I find the TW shines compared to almost anything with a 21" front wheel is on twisty paved roads. In the bush my buddies Super Sherpa does everything as well as my TW.
The BIGGEST difference is in ownership. Nobody follows a skinny tire dirt bike into a gas station just to ask what it is and how much it costs! I NEVER get as much attention on my 500X as I do my round bottom girl.
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Good synopsis by Trail Woman.
I have owned both.
Both were new.
Had both for about the same length of time and miles.
Dropped the XT 250 3 times.
Dropped the TW200 zero times although I pushed my limit on one extended solo ride.
XT250 has a longer range, better suspension, ~10 MPH faster and can clear an intersection in first gear, but I would recommend the TW200 for trail riding.
I am almost 72, owned 17 M/C and rode for 55 years.
My most recent bike did 0-60 in 3.3 seconds.
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