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    Deciding between TW200 and XT250

    Hi, first time posting here.

    I currently have a 2010 KLR 650. I don't really like it because I find it too big, too high and too heavy. All that for a bike that's not really at ease on the highway (the engine purrs at 70mph but doesn't like much more).

    Here are all the motorcycles I had so far (one at a time):

    1- 2006 Kawasaki ZZR250
    2- 2004 Suzuki V-Strom DL650
    3- 2008 Yamaha XT250
    4- 2014 Honda CB500X
    5- 2010 Kawasaki KLR650

    The bike I liked the most, and that I kept the longuest, was the XT250. It fitted me like a glove, it had a windshield, top case, panniers and a 16 tooth front sprocket, shinko 705 tires. I did some camping trips with it and it was awesome. It could hold 62 mph all day even fully loaded.

    I sold it because I met my current girlfriend and she wanted to ride with me. It was possible on the XT but a bit cramped.

    I then bought the CB500X, a dream come true (or was it?)... it turned out it was the bike I liked the less in the bunch. Very uncomfortable riding position for me, the handlebar was high and wide (and that's what I like), but the footpegs where strangely too far back, with a seat that was too wide. It gave me a lot of pain in the hips. And there was some buffeting (not as much as the vstrom but still annoying).

    So I sold it and bought my current ride, the KLR. Based on it's reputation and a short trial ride. It's an ok bike, I really like the torque of the engine and the riding position and general comfort is great. It has a lowered seat but stock suspension. I wouldn't use it on anything gnarlier than a gravel road, it's much too heavy for me and there is a lot of plastic to break. Even when riding in town, it feels less enjoyable and more like a chore. I just did a valve adjustment and it took forever (at least 8 hours). Compared to the valve adjustment I did on the XT (1 hour)

    And here I am, trying to choose my next ride. My girlfriend currently has some neck problems, so she rides very rarely and only for short distances.

    My criterias are:

    1- it must be able to maintain 62mph (100km/h) loaded (with camping gear) in normal weather and on relatively flat surfaces. I know that in heavy front wind it could be less, even the KLR struggles sometimes.
    2- easy to maintain (no shims for valve adjustments please!)
    3- able to ride 2 up for short distances and low speed (40 mph max)
    4- must be possible to add a windshield, top case and hard panniers
    5- low seat height (max 32 inches)

    What I find interesting about the TW is the comments I read about how it's so easy to handle off road. I would really like to try off road riding, but never got to do it for fear of getting hurt or braking something on the bike. I did try a little with the XT, more like forest roads, and it was ok. But the TW looks like it would be fun.

    And maybe that's the keyword here, fun. I don't want performance or looks, I want something easy to ride, that becomes like an extension of myself. Something easy to work on and that I can customize on the cheap. The XT is all that, but is a little squirelly on the rough (from what I read, since I didn't experiment a lot).

    One last thing, I compared the TW and the XT on cycle-ergo and I don't know if my eyes are playing with me but it almost looks like there's more space for a passenger on the TW than the XT? If you look closely on the 2 pictures, there's more space between the 2 persons and the passenger's legs look more relaxed (the passenger footpegs looks lower). Is the seat longer on the TW?

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    Thank you for your help and all the great information and ride reports on this wonderful forum!

    And sorry for my poor english, I'm from Quebec ;-)

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    Looks like more room to me. One thing to note is that the TW suspension is probably softer than the XT, but that's fixable. I was hoping you'd comment on the V-Strom.

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    Sounds like your looking for a DR650. Had the TW, XT and just sold the 2015 KLR. Basically for the same reasons you stated.

    The DR I just picked up is by far the best all round bike I've owned. Great power and cruises at 70 all day long. Will cruise 55 in fourth perfectly, bone stock. Nearly 100 pounds lighter then a KLR and not top heavy. Only 50 pounds heavier then a TW from what I read or googled but twice the power and suspension. You'll be really disappointed with the power of a TW or XT if you liked the KLR. I strongly suggest you check one out before settling on a smaller bike.
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    Hi Krakrak and welsome to the forum from an ex-Montrealer now living in the Hawkesbury area. I too have had many different bikes over the years but 85% were dual sport bikes and now I just have my TW. Above "Chip" mentioned the DR650 which I have never owned or ridden but I did consider it a few years ago. Certainly comparing the DR to a TW is night and day however there is a very large group here that love their TW`s so you know it`s got appeal. There is a weekend event in Lachute starting on May 17th for off-road riding and if you haven`t made a decision by then you could swing by and try my TW if you like? I'll send you a PM as well.
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    Here's another thread on the XT 250:

    https://www.tw200forum.com/forum/oth...not-xt250.html

    I would have to agree with Chip about the DR650. I had a 2008 DR for several years, which I regrettable sold to get the CSC250.

    I had TW200 for 9+ years, and currently have an XT250. For my purposes, I prefer the XT for combined on and off road, mostly because of the better suspension of the XT.

    If I could only have one bike for everything, it would be the DR 650.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littletommy View Post
    Looks like more room to me. One thing to note is that the TW suspension is probably softer than the XT, but that's fixable. I was hoping you'd comment on the V-Strom.

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    Thank you!

    The vstrom had a very sweet engine, lots of torque but smoother than a thumper. It was also very top heavy, the seat was too high and the buffeting was intolerable for me. I tried taller, larger and smaller windshields, at different angles, but there was always some conditions where my helmet was litterally shaking. It almost made me sick.

    In city traffic it handled like a barge. As soon as it was moving it was light and nimble but since I have to cross Montreal at rush hour to get to work I need something a little easier to handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip View Post
    Sounds like your looking for a DR650. Had the TW, XT and just sold the 2015 KLR. Basically for the same reasons you stated.

    The DR I just picked up is by far the best all round bike I've owned. Great power and cruises at 70 all day long. Will cruise 55 in fourth perfectly, bone stock. Nearly 100 pounds lighter then a KLR and not top heavy. Only 50 pounds heavier then a TW from what I read or googled but twice the power and suspension. You'll be really disappointed with the power of a TW or XT if you liked the KLR. I strongly suggest you check one out before settling on a smaller bike.
    I tried a DR650 when I was shopping to replace the XT and I didn't like it. I don't know if it was that particular bike but I found that it vibrated a lot. Much more than a KLR. It was almost brand new (less than 2000km IIRC). And the seat height is way up there, I would have to drop it 3 inches to be comfortable in slow speed conditions.

    Maybe if I had an opportunity to test another one I could see if the one I tried wasn't in a good state.

    Thank you for your suggestion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbfla View Post
    Here's another thread on the XT 250:



    I would have to agree with Chip about the DR650. I had a 2008 DR for several years, which I regrettable sold to get the CSC250.

    I had TW200 for 9+ years, and currently have an XT250. For my purposes, I prefer the XT for combined on and off road, mostly because of the better suspension of the XT.

    If I could only have one bike for everything, it would be the DR 650.

    jb
    Yes I think that the XT is still the best choice for me, but I'm really intrigued by the TW. It looks like TW owners are much more inclined to customize it than the XT. And it looks so forgiving and easy to ride.

    Like I said my main concern would be sustained 62mph riding. I know that the XT can do it for hours. The longuest highway ride I did on my XT was 5 hours (except stopping for gas of course).

    Another plus for the XT is fuel injection. I can live with a carbed bike but it's so much easier to start a fuel injected bike, that's always ready to go as soon as it's started. I've heard that the FI on the XT is very good and has smooth throttle control. My XT had a carb but it was very smooth also (as soon as it warmed up).
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    Cruising at 62 two with gear? Eliminate the TW. Forget any 250 for any comfortable two up. It is a great bike for exploring off road. The DR650 is probably your best choice. Look for one already farkled and possibly lowered. 65-70 two up loaded is fine cruising. I prefer fuel injection also, but alas, the dr will never get that. I also hate the foot peg position of the cb500x. Keeps me from riding it much.It doesn't bother me too much off road but on long paved stretches or putting your feet down a lot in traffic I absolutely hate it. Have you considered a royal enfield Himalaya?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juno View Post
    Cruising at 62 two with gear? Eliminate the TW. Forget any 250 for any comfortable two up. It is a great bike for exploring off road. The DR650 is probably your best choice. Look for one already farkled and possibly lowered. 65-70 two up loaded is fine cruising. I prefer fuel injection also, but alas, the dr will never get that. I also hate the foot peg position of the cb500x. Keeps me from riding it much.It doesn't bother me too much off road but on long paved stretches or putting your feet down a lot in traffic I absolutely hate it. Have you considered a royal enfield Himalaya?????
    Hi Juno,

    2 up would only be for slow speed short rides, since my girlfriend has neck problems and get sore fast. Loaded up for camping would be only me on the bike.

    One thing going for the small displacement bikes here in Quebec is that the registration and insurance is much more expensive for 401cc and more. Currently it costs 660$ (canadian) annually just for the registration (plates?). A 250cc bike costs 478$. A sportbike is 1,534$ annualy.

    So the Royal Enfield with it's low output big displacement engine is not very interesting. And I've heard that it struggles to maintain highway speeds?
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