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    Yes,
    This is one of those things that you do it (clutchless shifting) if you want or, you don't. No one's forcing anything here. I myself have really never liked the plan of clutchless shifting. I've never been a racer or been in any scenarios where it MIGHT be more advantages to do clutchless shifting. Apparently, I've always found the need, on any bike, on any ride, in any scenario to use the clutch. Again, it's me. A really, REALLY BIG prime example of clutchless shifting is with long haul or, over the road truckers. Most of those trucks have been equipped with anywhere from 13 speed Road Ranger trannies, up to 22 and 24 speed Road Rangers. About 99.999999999% of the seasoned vet truckers, ONLY use the clutch on takeoff. From that point on, they might not touch the clutch again 'till they get to another state, to stop for fuel. In transmissions of that size, (about a hundred times larger than a TW trans, literally) it's actually fairly easy to match all three, road speed, engine speed and trans speed. I did it with many, many of our older fire trucks a few decades ago.

    But, in any case, as has been stated, it's your bike, your trans etc. use the clutch, or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TW_in_BC View Post
    On YOUR bike...you can do whatever you want.
    Yes, obviously...clever and helpful!

    I would like to hear your explanation, though...of why the technique in the vid from laryl or in my post is incorrect, harmful or impossible?
    Or in Mesquite's post?

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    My explanation is that I'd rather not do that with MY bike....I'd try it on yours though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TW_in_BC View Post
    My explanation is that I'd rather not do that with MY bike....I'd try it on yours though.
    Totally easy to learn, virtually harmless to the bike. Even if you totally 'effed it up I don't really think it would hurt the bike.
    Learn it on yours and I'll be happy to let you do it on mine.
    Really...it is no big deal. Don't "try it"..."do it"!
    I practice it (on mine!) every once in a while, just to stay sharp.

    The skill could save your bacon sometime...
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    In the 70s I would drag race with a 66 Sportster. Once I left the line I never used the clutch. I would shift under full power using the kill button. Lift up on shifter rake thumb across kill button and instantly in next gear. Never had a tranny problem but chain,sprockets and tire took a beating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arrowsmith View Post
    In the 70s I would drag race with a 66 Sportster. Once I left the line I never used the clutch. I would shift under full power using the kill button. Lift up on shifter rake thumb across kill button and instantly in next gear. Never had a tranny problem but chain,sprockets and tire took a beating.
    Same thing!
    Must've been a blast, dragin' the old iron head Sporty!
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    Quote Originally Posted by arrowsmith View Post
    In the 70s I would drag race with a 66 Sportster. Once I left the line I never used the clutch. I would shift under full power using the kill button. Lift up on shifter rake thumb across kill button and instantly in next gear. Never had a tranny problem but chain,sprockets and tire took a beating.
    That sounds like the opposite of Power Shifting
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    I only have done "clutchless" shifting up gear with high RPM and a quick let off prior to shifting...have no idea if it is good, bad or indifferent...

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