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    Lane Splitting on a TW200

    I know this has been beat to death but I haven't seen any lane splitting video with a TW200, not that you can tell it is a TW other than by the sound.

    For those that question the legality of it in California the California Highway Patrol has on their website "Lane Splitting General Guidelines".

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    I enjoyed the video, and I thought the guidelines are reasonable. It was also refreshing to see a government agency say "Every rider has ultimate responsibility for his or her own decision making and safety." rather than trying to legislatively remove every possible risk from our lives.
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    Here on the Right Coast, I think that is illegal in just about every state. Up here in the NY mountains I am pretty sure some yahoo texting on his phone would probably have my legs pasted to his fender.

    I don't see any need to legislate any of this but will anyone tell me what the benefit is in doing this maneuver? I don't even know what the ticket would say here, passing on the right or unsafe lane change or failure to keep right ? I know for sure when bikers ride the shoulder or center medium in a traffic jam the law gets right after them, if they can. :-)))))))

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryL View Post
    Here on the Right Coast, I think that is illegal in just about every state. Up here in the NY mountains I am pretty sure some yahoo texting on his phone would probably have my legs pasted to his fender.

    I don't see any need to legislate any of this but will anyone tell me what the benefit is in doing this maneuver? I don't even know what the ticket would say here, passing on the right or unsafe lane change or failure to keep right ? I know for sure when bikers ride the shoulder or center medium in a traffic jam the law gets right after them, if they can. :-)))))))

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    Cali is the ONLY state in which it is legal. But a Cali-funded study declaring it a safe practice is being used as the basis for legalizing it in other states. If I'm not mistaken Tennessee is already considering it and other states will likely follow.

    For years the nanny-staters have attempted to abolish the practice here but the results of their study kinda blew up in their faces when they discovered that almost no one was dying as a result of lane sharing. In fact it's an effective method for relieving congestion and pollution in urban areas so even the Greenies were on board with it. Thus annointed it'll be here to stay.

    It isn't only employed at stoplights or stopsigns. We use it when traffic is rolling so slowly that it's difficult to keep a bike upright, permitting us to make miles of progress while the cagers stand still. We can legally do it anytime the prevailing flow of traffic is well below the posted speed limit.

    As with many things in California the "guidelines" aren't an actual matter of law and won't necessarily hold up in court if challenged, they're just a guide for law enforcement.

    The practice itself is legal, but you're still subject to other provisions of the law such as excessive speed, driving too fast for conditions (rain), exhibition of speed (jerkweeds doing wheelies between cars) or any other infraction which could occur if you were riding between the lines.

    Everyone has their own sense of etiquette and their own level of comfort with it. Some don't/won't employ it at all. But at least we can make that choice .



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    The Nevada legislature just turned down a bill to allow lane splitting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryL View Post
    Here on the Right Coast, I think that is illegal in just about every state. Up here in the NY mountains I am pretty sure some yahoo texting on his phone would probably have my legs pasted to his fender.

    I don't see any need to legislate any of this but will anyone tell me what the benefit is in doing this maneuver? I don't even know what the ticket would say here, passing on the right or unsafe lane change or failure to keep right ? I know for sure when bikers ride the shoulder or center medium in a traffic jam the law gets right after them, if they can. :-)))))))

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    I think the prohibition against riding on the shoulder or the medians has to do with keeping these areas clear for emergency vehicles.

    As far as the benefits of lane splitting? If it had been approved here in AZ last year like it should have been my daily commute would be about 15 minutes shorter each way. Instead, those of us on bikes watch our temperature gauges climb instead of being able to legally take advantage of the ample real estate between the rows of cars that get caught by red lights for multiple cycles.

    Do you ever shift lanes before a light because being 3rd or 4th in line is almost always better than being 9th or 10th? In California (and pretty much every other country on Earth) motorcycles get to be 1st in line every time thanks to legal lane-splitting/filtering, which they should be because motorcycles accelerate faster and take up less room than cars.

    No one is forcing California motorcyclists to ride between cars, but in my opinion some texting yahoo is always liable to drift into your lane and take you out, so why not let motorcyclists take advantage of the characteristics of their chosen vehicle instead of simply being vulnerable to the liabilities of riding a motorcycle around big heavy cars? I think the point is that by choosing to ride a motorcycle you are assuming additional risk and additional responsibility for your own safety, so why not allow motorcyclists to fully enjoy the opportunities offered by the physics of their vehicle as well?

    All of the statistics seem to point to the fact that lane splitting isn't any more dangerous than any other kind of motorcycling, the only reason it's still illegal in most states is that it makes some car drivers "uncomfortable", or jealous!

    Lane splitting saves time, gas, and engine damage due to high heat from sitting still in traffic. That's the benefit.
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