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    Go To The Internet First

    I am slowly learning things aren't always as vendors tell you and often the internet is a quick accurate source of info.
    For example a recent purchased newer truck needs a spare smart key and remote fob. Dealer says they must do it and it is about $300. Local Locksmith says they can do it for $275 and must use their proprietary key cloner.
    Well, 15 minutes on the internet later I have printed how-to instructions for programming both using sequences of manipulations of door, windows,and original key plus I have ordered new smart key and remote fob both for under $25. I'll have Home Depot cut the key for me ( they wanted $75 for just the key) once it arrives for about $5. Total cost will be about $30 plus an additional hour of my time but I save half a day leaving car with Toyota and getting a ride home. Not bad.
    Moral of story? It can pay to get a second opinion and shop for an honest deal. Plus car dealerships can be rather dishonest in their quest for business.
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    Yep, there's not much you can't find on the interwebs these days..

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    What web site did you find the keys on. I need three 2 for my 2006 Honda Pilot and one for my 2005 Civic
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbm View Post
    Yep, there's not much you can't find on the interwebs these days..

    Except a list of honest car dealers.




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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty View Post
    Except a list of honest car dealers.
    Does such an animal exist? I've never found one...

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    Yes. Well, once upon a time. I believe he passed away a few years ago.




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    Say Top, I just Googled my car's year and model name followed by "...smart key programming tips". In my case I was led to a specific Toyota forum with other links that yielded instructions plus links to buy smart key blank. Once I confirmed instructions from two sources I printed them and went shopping for key blank. With proper I.D. for key I got from an expensive site I then searched e-bay for key again and stumbled upon add for new programmable smart key plus remote for about half the price of key by itself from many other vendors.

    For the curious who may have been buffaloed by dealers into thinking expensive NASA grade EPROM encoders and radio frequency cloning devices are required to make a key or remote work after loss or a battery change here is what common programming entails:
    1) with key out of ignition open drivers door only, leave drivers door only unlocked
    2) quickly a) put key into lock, then remove b) repeat step 2a)
    3)quickly a) close then open driver's door b) close then open driver's door again c) insert key, don't turn key d) close driver's door e) turn key to "ON" but not "START" , then back to "OFF"
    f) remove key
    4) then proceed to do similar manipulations with lock button.
    Pretty high tech, no? Really worth $300 and an advanced degree in automotive engineering, right?
    Some folks simply remove the radio frequency interrogatory chip from a functional smart key and affix it under dash near ignition switch and then any simple hardware store cut key will start vehicle.
    Last edited by Fred; 02-24-2015 at 11:32 PM.
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    5) Run around the truck 3 times in a clockwise direction.
    6) Run around the truck 3 times in a counter-clockwise direction.
    7) Drop and do 10 pushups while quacking like a duck.
    8) . . . . . .

    Wow! Make sure that you post a video of this programming process !

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    As I have now graduated into the age of 'super high-tech keys' I anxiously await the outcome of your sequential door opening and key turning. A few years ago, I found myself a bit frustrated when my very basic key fob ceased to function. Gerry
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    I like electronic ignition and fuel injection but new cars and bikes have way to much crap. One day myself and 2 other mechanics tried to turn off the "low tire pressure light" on a Tahoe using the instructions in the owners manual. Holy f###! Its impossible to do it before it times out. So we started sending the fleet to the stealership... $100/vehicle to put the light out. Then we broke down and bought a tool for $1000. (all it does is turn off the tire monitor lights)
    Glad to hear you have a Toyota Fred. They are the easiest to work on and some have a tire pressure light reset button :-)

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