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    Krav Maga - pretty interesting Israeli self defense system

    I have wanted to train in KM since I first learned of it a few years ago. Unfortunately it's just been another thing on my list of things that I don't have time and money for. Anyway, from what little I know of KM and other self defense or martial arts systems, I think it probably is the most effective real world self defense system. A lot of people would probably argue that MMA with BJJ and all that is better, but I'd call BS on that. MMA can be very effective but in reality formal MMA is also very limited for real world application (so many rules that prevent the use of many of KM's most devastatingly damaging and effective techniques). Even BJJ is about twisting body parts around and choking people basically. KM is about human anatomy and going straight for the easiest and most damaging disablers first, and fast. I would say that perhaps the most major difference between the two disciplines is that MMA is, at the end of the day, an entertainment-industry sport... KM definitely is not. Anyway I'm not going to pretend to be some kind of expert on it, because I'm absolutely nothing of the sort. But from what little I do understand of it, I really like it and would really like to learn it some day.

    Here's a neat article about it:

    http://www.artofmanliness.com/2013/0...efense-forces/

    Anyone here ever trained in Krav Maga by chance? If so, what do you think?
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    I have no martial art experience beyond one of those introductory tae kwan do classes when Karate Kid was popular. Geezus I feel old. But while I didn't like sparring because... yeah, I admit it, I'mma softie girl and didn't like hurting the opponent... I've grown up quite a bit since then and have had to face down guys who could have done serious harm if they didn't buy into my red-head temper - which was pure raging bluff. Thankfully, they were just bullies, and those jerks really don't have a backbone. I've not been back to modern martial arts classes because they are for show and competition, which I've seen more than one video show is very ineffective in the real world.

    But this... This I would be very interested in learning more about. Incapacitate and escape. Live to file a police report, or get a friend out of a bad situation. I would go to classes for this.

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    I like the way you think, man. "Pure raging bluff" - nice lol! Honestly for the most part that's all anyone really has anyway. Because at the end of the day we are all human, and a gun doesn't care if you're 6'10 and 240 pounds of rippling, bulging, world-elite MMA fighter; you're still going to die when those hot rounds rip into your flesh! Beyond that, anyone one with brains will have to consider all possible consequences in a situation like that, such as what might actually happen if you injure the guy severely or even kill him. Maybe you go to jail for life because you were defending yourself or your family. That kind of thing is the unfortunate reality half the time. At least you do have some TKD; the only thing I've ever done is informal wrestling at summer camp as a kid and with high school friends. And that was exactly what I went to in the two or three little school yard scuffs I ended up in. Pretty much some idiot attacked me and I wrestled him to the ground and angrily threatened to punch him and then we both walked away before security got there hahaha. Gotta love those high school "fights". I think that for sure modern MMA is the best among the competition-sport martial arts, and that if you train for years you could be pretty effective in the real world. However something like this Krav Maga, it seems, would require much less formal training and practice to be just as effective on the street.
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    My old instructor who trained Special Forces troops once told us " Learn how to use your legs" . Kicking? Blocking? Nope...For running away! Best not to get into any kind of fight if you don't have to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xracer View Post
    My old instructor who trained Special Forces troops once told us " Learn how to use your legs" . Kicking? Blocking? Nope...For running away! Best not to get into any kind of fight if you don't have to.
    I think that's actually one of the basic precepts of Krav Maga - first avoid the situation, then do x, y, and z if you can't avoid it.
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    I would love to take krav maga but its very expensive and the closest gym that teaches is at least 35 miles from me. I am in about my 10th week of BJJ. A friend of mine is teaching it to a few of us at our church for free and its close aand one night a week which is about all i can get away with the wife and kids. BJJ is not bs if the fight gets on the ground. You get a guy who knows what they are doing and you will be in trouble in a matter of seconds on the ground. If i could wrestle myself with what limited knowledge i have now vs 10 weeks ago the old me would be in trouble. A rear naked choke, a triangle choke and multiple types of arm bars and other moves are not a joke. My arm still isnt 100% from an armbar that was done 7 weeks ago and i tapped out as soon as i was put in it and we just slowly put on force till the guy taps. It would be very easy to break someones arm in a pinch. triangle choke or rear naked and you are passed out in a matter of seconds. I think krav maga mixed with BJJ and muay thai kick boxing would be the best mix up. BJJ does nothing for your standup game whil muay thai does nothing for your ground game. Its all good stuff and any training is better than none in my book.

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    Yea I never meant to call MMA stuff bull shit; perhaps that was a bit of poor diction on my part. I just think that with limited training Krav Maga is probably more effective in tough situations. I think the rear naked choke might be the single most effective technique in BJJ (it is also taught in Krav Maga). If you watch MMA fights, it seems to be the cause of more fight wins than any single BJJ technique. The great thing about KM is that it apparently fuses together the most effective moves from different disciplines into one system. So you get a little Muy Thai together with some gouging and fish-hooking and choking

    That's awesome that you're doing Jiu Jitsu. Glad to hear that you're happy with the results so far.
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