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    Studentís Protest Sparks Viral Debate On American Indian History

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    The victors write the history...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AGman View Post
    The victors write the history...
    Yes they do and often ignore the truth.
    Part of the issue however is confused by the application of moral standards of 2015 to violence which occurred 150 years ago.
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    The same thing happened here in Australia and we are in denial like all the rest. Some progress has been made in the last few years. A lot has changed here in my lifetime but more needs to be done.
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    Screw Em' They Lost and now they bitch about being on the Gravy Train....you can't have it both ways...after all most of the Indian Tribes were not exactly peaceful and didn't sit around eating Mushrooms, Smoking Peace Pipes, and downing Peyote....all sides want to suit history to their side...

    They real history lies somewhere in~between....
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    First of all no one lives anywhere on God's Green Earth, that didn't first kick someone else's ass out of that place first. There is no denial there. Even the Native Americans had vicious wars between themselves, committed heinous acts against other Native Americans and captured them for slaves. Most tribes treated there dogs and horses better than their women.

    Secondly you can't have your cake and eat it too. There are many treaties still in existence and honored (Ya I know, many were made and then ignored by the crackers. See first sentence above.) that give Sovereign Nation status to some Native American Nations. This allows them to have their own laws (casinos), accept aid from the rest of the country, and not pay taxes like the rest of us. Yet they still benefit from the national and locale infrastructure.

    As said above the conquering victors write the history.

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    No one can change history, recognition for what actually happened in the the documented history goes a long way to healing wounds. Our leader getting up in our parliament saying sorry for all the shit that went down here helped both sides, indigenous and European.
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    He can be sorry for it but he, nor you, did it. Genocide, vanquish, slaughtered, ....kick their ever liven asses .... toe may toe, toe mah toe, it don't matter.

    I'm a third century descendant of European immigrants here in the US, and I'm sure I could find where some of my ancestors were vanquished by the Romans. At some point you just to got to give it up and get on with our life.
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    Political Correctness has been getting shoved down our throats since that moron LBJ came into office, after murdering JFK...our Generation, our kids, and now Grandkids, having been getting that PC/BS shoved in our faces by the media, pop culture, and public education for 50 years, and it gets worse by the year. Some of us aren't buying it...{and yes I had to fight that bullcrap through my 7 years of college, but had the brains and soul to separate the lies from the truth....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils Advocate View Post
    He can be sorry for it but he, nor you, did it. Genocide, vanquish, slaughtered, ....kick their ever liven asses .... Toe may toe, toe mah toe, it don't matter.

    I'm third century European immigrant here in the US, and I'm sure I could find where some of my ancestors were vanquished by the Romans. At some point you just to got to give it up and get on with our life.
    Correct you are DA....half my ancestors came to America from Germany by boat{1751} the other half from Ireland {1858} the Irish were treated like dogs....and I have spent years working on both sides Genealogy...and have yet to find the Irish side bitching and moaning because somebody pissed in their cereal....time to freaking move on.

    However, if the Skins want to go back to living in Tee-Pees and living off the land, I am sure nobody will stop them{except the Poverty Pimps that keep them feeling like victims}
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