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    Thumbs up "Obama asks Americans to help stop 'epidemic of gun violence'"

    ...and yet he does everything possible to deprive us of the tools to do so. Since almost all mass shootings occur within victim disarmament zones, it is obvious that the solution is to eliminate or at least severely reduce the number and scope of such dangerous zones.

    “Change, as always, is going to take all of us,” Obama said.

    Yeah, well, good luck with that!

    “The president has made clear he’s not satisfied with where we are,” White House spokesman Eric Schultz said.

    Good. Leave anytime. In fact, there is no shortage of volunteers to help you pack!

    Source: latimes.com/nation/politics/la-obama-gun-address-20160101-story
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    I have a suggestion for Him. Get rid of all your security people that pack guns for you. Then get rid of the fill in people. Oh, and leave the local LEOs alone too. Then go walk around in the gun free zones for a few weeks. Let me know how that feels.
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    Don't worry WECSOG, the American populace is beyond it. It's a no hitter. You know all the figures about people buying guns after tragedies and terrorist events? Over half of them are liberals/democrats. So, he can talk all he wants, but it will be no sale.
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    First of all there is not an epidemic. Violent crime has been decreasing since 1997.

    Second, the gun show loop hole is a myth. There is not a gun show loop hole. If you buy a firearm from a dealer or someone engaged in the business of selling firearms they MUST perform a background check. The only exception to this is if you are buying a firearm from your neighbor, or from another private individual that you found, like through an ad in the newspaper. These sales must take place face to face. No one with out a license to sell firearms can ship or receive a firearm with very few exceptions.

    Third, Obama says that the American people want this and even gun owners support these changes. Well if that is truly the case why don't he follow the normal Constitutional procedure and ask for a law from congress that he can sign? He knows it is a lie.

    And last the changes he's asking for would not have prevented Sandy Hook. The murderer there killed his mother and stole her firearms. I believe that is already against the law. It would not have prevented the murders at the movie theater in Colorado. That freak passed a NICs (background check). It would not have prevented the six deaths and the near death of Gabriel Giffords in Arizona. Again that nut had no prior history and passed a background check. It would not prevent another San Bernardino type terror attack. They got there fire arms through a straw purchase, already against the law.

    I'm sure Obama is smart enough to know all this stuff. I believe most of our congress critters are aware of this.

    What do you suppose it is that they are really trying to accomplish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils Advocate View Post
    What do you suppose it is that they are really trying to accomplish?
    Simple, complete disarmament of the American people. This tripe the liberals constantly spew about guns and violence has nothing to do with ending violent crime and murders, they don't care about that part. Its simply about control, they want it and want it to be absolute with no chance of the populace resisting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jb882 View Post
    Simple, complete disarmament of the American people. This tripe the liberals constantly spew about guns and violence has nothing to do with ending violent crime and murders, they don't care about that part. Its simply about control, they want it and want it to be absolute with no chance of the populace resisting.
    Exactly. "Gun control" has little to do with guns, and everything to do with control.
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    Uh, we have a president?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils Advocate View Post
    First of all there is not an epidemic. Violent crime has been decreasing since 1997.

    Second, the gun show loop hole is a myth. There is not a gun show loop hole. If you buy a firearm from a dealer or someone engaged in the business of selling firearms they MUST perform a background check. The only exception to this is if you are buying a firearm from your neighbor, or from another private individual that you found, like through an ad in the newspaper. These sales must take place face to face. No one with out a license to sell firearms can ship or receive a firearm with very few exceptions.

    Third, Obama says that the American people want this and even gun owners support these changes. Well if that is truly the case why don't he follow the normal Constitutional procedure and ask for a law from congress that he can sign? He knows it is a lie.

    And last the changes he's asking for would not have prevented Sandy Hook. The murderer there killed his mother and stole her firearms. I believe that is already against the law. It would not have prevented the murders at the movie theater in Colorado. That freak passed a NICs (background check). It would not have prevented the six deaths and the near death of Gabriel Giffords in Arizona. Again that nut had no prior history and passed a background check. It would not prevent another San Bernardino type terror attack. They got there fire arms through a straw purchase, already against the law.

    I'm sure Obama is smart enough to know all this stuff. I believe most of our congress critters are aware of this.

    What do you suppose it is that they are really trying to accomplish?
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