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    Here's A Legacy To Be Proud Of

    US National Debt Versus US Gross Domestic Product by year;

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    Federal_Debt_Total_Public_Debt_as_Percent_of_Gross_Domestic_Product_pdf.jpg

    I'm not just blaming the President. He is (should be) just a small part of this debacle.

    I go vote in the Primaries now.

    Pray for our Nation.
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    Pray for sure because this nation has become filthy and vile and is reaping the reward of this.

    I pray, I vote and I prepare.
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    Unfortunately, unless the People of the United States of America take the advice from God Himself and Repent, we are history. Sad, but true. You'll see. Prepare yourself and your soul, times are going to get much harder than anything we've seen before as God separates the wheat from the chaff in the near future.

    2 Chronicles 7:14

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    If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
    1st John 1:9
    If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    John 3:16
    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    John 3:17
    For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

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    I think the attitude towards debt of the government sadly reflects the attitude towards debt of the American people.

    Students do not learn basic financial management in school. I am from a different generation than most of you, and I'm not sure what you used to learn in school, but I think to myself all of the time how messed up it is that anyone my age can identify cloud types, knows the difference between magma and lava, and the difference between a stalagmite and a stalactite, but cannot mange personal finances. Not that geology isn't important, but my gosh, priorities!!!

    I don't mean to side track this thread, but I get riled up every time I think about debt of the government and personal debt of the american people. It's become too socially acceptable to take out a loan or use credit for every necessity, luxury, and whim that crosses our path.
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    cpit and littletommy

    You are both correct. Thank you for sharing.

    When I was in high school in 1975 my long haired liberal democrat civics teacher (he told us he was liberal and a democrat) and he was a National Education Association union member
    and Illinois teachers union member, preached to us all the time that the Republicans were destroying our nation with debt. I laugh and laugh now that this democrat has had to watch
    as Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and now Barack Hussein Obama Jr. have all added to this monsterous debt.

    I don't blame the Democrats anymore than I do the Republicans. I blame them all.

    This is a persona thing which you cpit mention and it's at the national and state in some cases level too. It's a heart issue. Our hearts are greedy thinking we can get something for nothing with no work ethic.

    littletommy.......I think the worst is yet to come to America and the world. End Times? Oh, you bet, I've been thinking this sine 1980 when I met Jesus at age 19 while seeking God.

    Fact is humans are corrupt and devious and not willing to repent. Unless there is a Spirit born revival this nation is doomed.

    I hope not as I've brought two wonderful children into this world and didn't want to but was told I needed to give the world a legacy by having a family so I got obedient and we have worked hard to do so. One will graduate in May with a four year degree from U of I in media and the other in two years with a four year degree in mechanical engineering from our local University here in Illinois which is tops in this field.
    Still, it's not the education that matters it's how we raised them.

    I employ many people and all of the youth I've been hiring lately are so "failure to launch" I hang my head and cry. Why? What have we done in society to have this?
    Well, I know why but still I ask.

    I see many kids coming from China and India who have much better training at home, or so it appears. If they are Christian. If they are atheists which many are, they are not much better
    than the typical punk on the street in the U.S., greedy, self-serving and only caring about their needs.

    Oh well. I see too much.

    God save us.
    We don't deserve it.
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    I wish there were some real answers we all could believe in. History tells us it is hard for a democrat to win the WH after 8 years of democrat rule yet we have a 74 year old socialist and a proven liar running and doing well. On the republican side we started with 17 and are now down to 3 but only 2 with any real chance. One was born in Canada to parents of Cuba descent and the other is a boisterous but highly successful businessman. The republican GOP leaders hate them both and are doing all within their powers to knock them both off. By the time we got to the polls to elect our next president both will be highly damaged goods. Hillary could be under indictment while Bernie could be gasping for air. Is there any real wonder why we are in the shape we are in?

    If Donald Trump pulls out a win tonight in Wisconsin then things might settle down some. If Cruz wins then we are guaranteed a brokered convention and that will likely produce a win for the democrats, either Hillary or Bernie along with a complete implosion of the republican party. 8 More years of the same stupid crap!

    It is pretty damn hard to soar like an Eagle when we are surrounded by a bunch of Turkeys we continually elect! Both political parties and the American voters get exactly what they deserve for being so completely stupid in this entire process.

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    I believe so also. God is going to separate the sheep from the goats, the wheat from the chaff, refine and burn away the dross until there is nothing but pure gold left. He knows those who are "His". The Shepherd knows his sheep.

    There is coming a day in which there will be a great falling away and also a time of great revival. For those that call themselves a Christian now, and don't serve Him like you should be doing, don't think for a moment that you will serve Him later when the heads start to roll. You won't. You will fall away with the rest of the backsliders and sinners who refuse to repent.

    Matthew 24:13 "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved".

    Luckily for us all, an offer is given. It is a gift, the price has been paid in full.

    John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

    John 3:17 "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him."


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    littletommy.......I think the worst is yet to come to America and the world. End Times? Oh, you bet, I've been thinking this sine 1980 when I met Jesus at age 19 while seeking God.

    Fact is humans are corrupt and devious and not willing to repent. Unless there is a Spirit born revival this nation is doomed.

    God save us.
    We don't deserve it.
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    If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    John 3:16
    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    John 3:17
    For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

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    The thing is Gary, we're going to get what they deserve as well. These politicians are looking out for themselves rather than We The People or our Nation.

    That graph, ...according to The Constitution it's the Congress that is responsible for producing and approving a Federal budget. They have let the President assume the preparing part but lately they just approve it. The President has assumed a lot of power in the last few decades that they are really not entitled to. Our Representatives have just let it go. Takes the monkey off their back.

    I voted for Berny. I figured Cruz had it sewn up anyway and there is no clear choice for me as far as GOP candidates go. At this point I just don't care. I figured who ever gets the GOP nomination would have a better chance against Berny than Hillary. It was projected close between those two.
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    From what I see around the world we are all being driven into massive debt to the world bank. It doesn't matter which system or party they just use nations/parties to divide us while corporations pillage our money through our governments. With nations around the world specializing in various areas of production we are all more vulnerable and no one area is independent of the global economic system that we fail to recognize as the New World Government.

    Think local... it's worth paying more to invest in your communities independence and well being.
    Don't buy cheap crap from multinational franchises. There's always a price to pay for cheap goods.
    Know what you're buying and where it comes from.

    It doesn't matter where you vote, it's where you put your money. Collectively it makes a world of difference and it starts with you.

    How many of you will complain about this and then run out to Walmart. BOYCOTT!!!!!

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    You all are right. My choice is still Cruz. I think Trump is a phony blow hard, a rich one, but still a blow hard. I have found the one who is always accusing someone else of lying, is usually the liar.
    And Trail Woman, I agree,,,,,,BOYCOTT!!!!!
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