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    Words of wisdom from a founding father!

    Thomas Jefferson




    His Portrait is on the Two $2.00
    Dollar Bill.

    This is amazing.
    There are two parts.
    Be sure to read
    the 2nd part in
    RED .

    Thomas Jefferson
    was a very remarkable man who started
    learning very early in life and never stopped.

    At 5, began
    studying under his cousin's tutor..

    At 9, studied
    Latin, Greek and French.

    At 14, studied
    classical literature and additional languages.

    At 16, entered
    the College of William and Mary..
    Also could write in Greek with one hand
    while writing the same in Latin with the other.

    At 19, studied
    Law for 5 years starting under George Wythe.

    At 23, started
    his own law practice.

    At 25, was
    elected to the Virginia House of Burgesses.

    At 31, wrote the
    widely circulated "Summary View of the Rights of British America " And
    retired from his law practice.
    At 32, was a
    delegate to the Second Continental Congress.

    At 33, wrote the
    Declaration of Independence .

    At 33, took
    three years to revise Virginia's legal code and wrote a Public Education
    bill and a statute for Religious Freedom.

    At 36, was
    elected the second Governor of Virginia succeeding Patrick Henry.

    At 40, served in congress for two years.

    At 41, was the
    American minister to France and
    negotiated commercial treaties with
    European nations along with Ben

    Franklin and John Adams..

    At 46, served as
    the first Secretary of State
    under George Washington.

    At 53, served as
    Vice President and was elected
    president of the American Philosophical Society.

    At 55, drafted
    the Kentucky Resolutions and
    became the active head of Republican Party.

    At 57, was
    elected the third president of the
    United States.

    At 60, obtained
    the Louisiana Purchase doubling
    the nation's size.

    At 61, was
    elected to a second term as President.

    At 65, retired to Monticello ..

    At 80, helped
    President Monroe shape the
    Monroe Doctrine.

    At 81, almost
    single-handedly created the University of Virginia and served as its first
    president.

    At 83, died on
    the 50th anniversary of the Signing of the Declaration of Independence along
    with John Adams.

    Thomas Jefferson
    knew because he himself studied the previous failed attempts at government.
    He understood
    actual history, the nature of God, His laws and the nature
    of man. That happens to be way more than what most understand
    today.

    Jefferson really knew his stuff.

    A voice from the
    past to lead us in the future:

    John F. Kennedy
    held a dinner in the White House for a group of the brightest minds
    in the nation at that time. He made this statement: "This is perhaps
    the assembly of
    the most intelligence ever to gather at one time in
    the White House with the exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined
    alone."


    "When we
    get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall

    become as corrupt as Europe ."
    --
    Thomas
    Jefferson

    "The
    democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those= who are

    willing to work and give to those who would not."

    --
    Thomas
    Jefferson

    "It is
    incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes.
    A
    principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the
    world."

    --
    Thomas
    Jefferson

    "I
    predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government
    from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."

    Thomas
    Jefferson

    "My
    reading of history convinces me that most bad government
    results from too much government." --
    Thomas
    Jefferson

    "No free
    man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
    --
    Thomas
    Jefferson

    "The
    strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a

    last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
    government."

    --
    Thomas
    Jefferson

    "The
    tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the

    blood of patriots and tyrants."
    --
    Thomas
    Jefferson

    "To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he
    disbelieves and
    abhors is sinful and tyrannical."
    --
    Thomas
    Jefferson

    Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:

    "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than
    standing armies.

    If the
    American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their
    currency, first by

    inflation, then by deflation, the

    banks and corporations that will grow up around
    the banks will

    deprive the people of all property - until

    their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers
    conquered."

    I wish we could
    get this out to every American!

    I'm doing my
    part.

    So Please do
    yours.


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    He commissioned the Lewis and Clark expedition, which could be argued to have been a greater accomplishment than project Apollo, seeing as how we knew more about the moon before we went there than Lewis and Clark did about the American West.

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    Tubman-20-460x500.jpg I'm not sure replacing Jefferson on the twenty dollar bill is such a good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred View Post
    Tubman-20-460x500.jpg I'm not sure replacing Jefferson on the twenty dollar bill is such a good idea.
    Sorry Fred, It is Andrew Jackson on the $20.

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    Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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    Jefferson was amazing. Quite representative of the times. Like other founders of this nation, Wealthy landed gentry. Certainly
    not a "common" man. He early on recognized the inhumanity of slavery though he missed the absurdity of ignoring females as members of
    society (no vote for them!). It was a long time ago when a small wealthy group could claim they knew what the people wanted/needed. Also a time of
    unlimited resources. Jefferson and his cohorts developed a great system that worked well for a short period. Unfortunately, as a nation we ignored the warnings of
    separation of church and state. We also never faced the reality of an economy based on constantly growing but with diminishing resources, clearly a recipe for disaster. Unless of course your religious and believe there is no need for conservation/sustainability as you believe God is coming for you to take you elsewhere (can you say Reagan).
    Nowdaze we are faced with a government that unable to do much due to politics, which is worse than "doing the wrong thing". IMHO we also have a governing body that does not represent the will of the majority, indeed has no real clue who is the majority and makes decisions based on faith in Christian teachings rather than facts. The whole world is in peril due to inequitable resource distribution, diminishing resources and overpopulation. Complicated by folks who just can't grasp that the system isn't working anymore and needs change. But cannot change as long as people remain dogmatic that nothing is wrong, we just have to have faith in God.......
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    There is one solution.


    Unless this happens, we are dust in the wind and America is doomed.
    1st John 1:9
    If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    John 3:16
    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    John 3:17
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    I really liked that article Gary. +1
    1st John 1:9
    If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    John 3:16
    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    John 3:17
    For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littletommy View Post
    There is one solution.


    Unless this happens, we are dust in the wind and America is doomed.
    I understand where you are coming from Tommy but I don't agree with your assessment. Religion won't hurt but following the rule of law will always be our best defense IMHO! The Constitution, Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights are our best guides even today and the founding fathers work very hard and very smart to get it as close to right as has ever been done in this world. Jefferson's quotes in red tell a lot of what has gone awry in the original plans and those of us who are strict Constitutionalists will appreciate his warnings. Men and woman of the caliber of our founding fathers do still exist but it is very unlikely we would ever elect them today. We just lost one not long ago in Judge Antonin Scallia and replacing him will be a very tough order for the next President. As with all written texts, translating the words and meaning of our Constitution has been an ongoing affair since it was written and only the very smartest of jurists ever get it right. Much of the real meanings can be found in the Federalist Papers but few will even bother to read them. I honestly believe a man of Thomas Jefferson's intelligence and stature would be laughed off the podium today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryL View Post
    I understand where you are coming from Tommy but I don't agree with your assessment. Religion won't hurt but following the rule of law will always be our best defense IMHO! The Constitution, Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights are our best guides even today and the founding fathers work very hard and very smart to get it as close to right as has ever been done in this world. Jefferson's quotes in red tell a lot of what has gone awry in the original plans and those of us who are strict Constitutionalists will appreciate his warnings. Men and woman of the caliber of our founding fathers do still exist but it is very unlikely we would ever elect them today. We just lost one not long ago in Judge Antonin Scallia and replacing him will be a very tough order for the next President. As with all written texts, translating the words and meaning of our Constitution has been an ongoing affair since it was written and only the very smartest of jurists ever get it right. Much of the real meanings can be found in the Federalist Papers but few will even bother to read them. I honestly believe a man of Thomas Jefferson's intelligence and stature would be laughed off the podium today.

    GaryL
    And when it all caves in around us, who will you turn to? (not meant as a "diss" at all, brother G)

    Me?, I'm trusting the Lord all the way; He's never let me down, not even once.

    Things are going to get a lot worse, we haven't seen anything yet.

    Matthew 24:13 "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved".

    It is time now that we start considering such things and getting our souls prepared; before it's too late.

    Bad Bad Times are coming soon...

    Wake up my dear friends.
    1st John 1:9
    If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    John 3:16
    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    John 3:17
    For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arbolmano View Post
    Jefferson was amazing. Quite representative of the times. Like other founders of this nation, Wealthy landed gentry. Certainly
    not a "common" man. He early on recognized the inhumanity of slavery though he missed the absurdity of ignoring females as members of
    society (no vote for them!). It was a long time ago when a small wealthy group could claim they knew what the people wanted/needed. Also a time of
    unlimited resources. Jefferson and his cohorts developed a great system that worked well for a short period. Unfortunately, as a nation we ignored the warnings of
    separation of church and state. We also never faced the reality of an economy based on constantly growing but with diminishing resources, clearly a recipe for disaster. Unless of course your religious and believe there is no need for conservation/sustainability as you believe God is coming for you to take you elsewhere (can you say Reagan).
    Nowdaze we are faced with a government that unable to do much due to politics, which is worse than "doing the wrong thing". IMHO we also have a governing body that does not represent the will of the majority, indeed has no real clue who is the majority and makes decisions based on faith in Christian teachings rather than facts. The whole world is in peril due to inequitable resource distribution, diminishing resources and overpopulation. Complicated by folks who just can't grasp that the system isn't working anymore and needs change. But cannot change as long as people remain dogmatic that nothing is wrong, we just have to have faith in God.......
    "does not represent the will of the majority, indeed has no real clue who is the majority and makes decisions based on faith in Christian teachings rather than facts."

    Where do you come up with this reasoning!?!? Morality cannot be legislated but the constant defamation of organised religion has been quite successful at painting it as archaic. Congratulations to all who have led the charge on getting religion removed from schools and public forums etc.... You and you ALONE have created a wondrous nation!


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