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    Thanks VETS

    At 54 I was too young for Vietnam too old for Desert Storm and Saddam....totally missed World War 1 & 2 my father was a MP in Korea he passed 17 years ago today...still makes my eyes Water ...God picked this day for a reason.would just like to say a big thank you to all all the veterans still out there.you will not be forgotten...your service was greatly appreciated and without it I would not have the freedom I have today again thank you to all the veterans

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    Great-Grandfather, Nelson, Union Army Civil War/Dad, Stan, Army Air Corp WWII/Uncle Bill, Infantry Europe WWII Purple Heart/Uncle John, Army Europe WWII/ Brother Mike Air Force Thailand SE Asia/ Fire Protection/and Me, the only surviving Vet out of all of the 25+ direct family members to serve, Air Force Vietnam Security Police Specialist....

    Salute to all those who served, especially those that paid the supreme price....
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    One fellow Veteran saying thanks to my other fellow Veterans!!

    Thanks for everything!!
    1st John 1:9
    If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    John 3:16
    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    John 3:17
    For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

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    An additional THANK YOU from the middle of the world. I flunked my physical, so didn't serve. I've always felt a little shame/regret for my not serving. My brother served in the infantry Viet Nam. Thanks for the freedoms we enjoy today to those with us and those who have left this mortal coil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuzziTWTom49 View Post
    An additional THANK YOU from the middle of the world. I flunked my physical, so didn't serve. I've always felt a little shame/regret for my not serving. My brother served in the infantry Viet Nam. Thanks for the freedoms we enjoy today to those with us and those who have left this mortal coil.
    But you were willing to go if you passed the physical, so thank you also Tom...
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    1st John 1:9
    If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    John 3:16
    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    John 3:17
    For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoot Gibson View Post
    NelsonHouseworth1859.jpgStan Houseworth 1942.jpgBillDeVore.jpgJohnHouseworthatRehobethDelaware.jpgMike me.jpg

    Great-Grandfather, Nelson, Union Army Civil War/Dad, Stan, Army Air Corp WWII/Uncle Bill, Infantry Europe WWII Purple Heart/Uncle John, Army Europe WWII/ Brother Mike Air Force Thailand SE Asia/ Fire Protection/and Me, the only surviving Vet out of all of the 25+ direct family members to serve, Air Force Vietnam Security Police Specialist....

    Salute to all those who served, especially those that paid the supreme price....
    I, too, come from a family of spotty service.

    I'm a Navy vet. It was service to my country and I was proud to do it; but it was also...selfish. I was ten years older than most recruits - and coming off a bad spell. Not an unusual story - the military no longer takes recruits who are ordered by judges to enlist, but at one time it was commonplace. I wasn't in legal trouble - just at a bad crossroads. Three hots and a cot, in a good cause.

    My father was in another bad situation. He was 17; born in Ohio (made him a citizen) but grew up in Germany, of German parents. Shortly after his birth the Great Depression hit; and his parents wanted part of that German Economic Miracle that was going on.

    It was a nightmare in the end. First the incremental losses of freedoms; then my father, an adolescent, forced into the Hitler Youth. Then...my swarthy grandfather, the son of a blond-haired man, father of another blond-haired man...was invited down to the local Gestapo office to discuss with Party Officials as to why he was not wearing a Star of David.

    He died of lead-poisoning during that little visit.

    My grandmother used connections to the American Consulate to arrange an exit visa for my father...and got forged papers for herself. They sailed to America, her under an assumed name...and found themselves in public housing.

    And out of that, the Draft officials found my father. And when they found out he spoke perfect German and knew the land...they decided that's where he would go.

    "But...but...Lieutenant...if the Nazis capture me, I'll get killed!"

    "Kid...we're all gonna get killed. You a loyal American?...or do you want to be arrested as a Kraut spy?"


    So it was. It was just his good luck that by the time he got there, the Nazis were pulling back faster than the Americans could advance. He participated in the Liberation of Paris, which was a high point...and then, after V-E Day, with all his fellow soldiers going back and being discharged...the Allied Forces made him a clerk and a driver, to translate the reams of Nazi documents.

    What he saw and learned made him sick. Sick of Germany, which he never returned to until the 1990s. Sick of the Army. Sick of the THOUGHT of a military.

    And he counseled me, strongly, NOT to enlist when I was a senior in high school. Worst thing I did in those years was take that bad advice.
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    ...continuing...

    Going back on my mother's side...she had cousins, many times removed, two generations prior, who served in Union Blue, from the New York regiment out of Herkimer County...who died in the War Between the States. I don't think she knew it herself until late in life; but her family was blue-blood semi-aristocrat New York from its earliest settlement. Relatives came over on the Mayflower.

    So...there's service in my family. Grudging service; fearful service; some of the Ultimate Sacrifice - and some of it wasteful.

    And here we are...the nation my people built, and longed for from other lands, and defended under the most horrific circumstances...and me as well...is now coming apart.

    Thanks to the crack-headed philosophies of two shiftless Austrians...Marx and Engels.
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    Down the road there comes a soldier
    17, maybe older
    Beneath his grimy uniform
    His wounded body tired and worn
    Furrowed brow sunken eyes
    Beleagured soul who pondered lies
    That brought him here to spill his blood
    Midst agony and gore and mud
    His innocence lay scattered here
    Across these fields where freedom dear
    He'd purchased now with mortal sin
    Upon a politicians' whim
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    Quote Originally Posted by phelonius View Post
    Down the road there comes a soldier
    17, maybe older
    Beneath his grimy uniform
    His wounded body tired and worn
    Furrowed brow sunken eyes
    Beleagured soul who pondered lies
    That brought him here to spill his blood
    Midst agony and gore and mud
    His innocence lay scattered here
    Across these fields where freedom dear
    He'd purchased now with mortal sin
    Upon a politicians' whim
    Is that Wilfred Owen?

    It's the way of all wars. Of all human society. Leaders order their soldiers and other pawns to do their bidding.

    Our society is unique in that we've kept that to a MINIMUM. Only someone woefully unaware, could argue that World War II was unnecessary.

    Or other wars...and no, I don't want to rehash a hundred years of American history. Just compare our history to that of any number of European or Asian or other nations...to the Romans and before even that.

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