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    I've only done about an hour of research into Motus Motorcycles, but from what I've read/seen so far, I think there is definitely potential for a high degree of success, IF they play their cards right. Motus MST: 1600cc v-4 putting out 160 hp (I know, that's not a ton for a 1600) BUT, it's SUPPOSED to be really reliable and low maintenance [valves never need to be adjusted!] The bike has a manufacturer-claimed dry weight of 530 pounds, which is comparable to other big sport tourers. It's supposed to have good suspension that eats up corners pretty well AND is a comfortable ride. Also one thing I noticed very quickly is that the exhaust sound coming out of the motor is fantastic! I thought some of you guys might like this; check it out!



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    A video:



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhaRd...el_video_title







    Another bit of tasty info!



    http://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle...e_-_first_ride









    And for those of you that really want to dive in and do your homework, here's another great stop:



    http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...us+Motorcycles
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    I expect price to be in the 16,000-18,000 range, too rich for my blood.




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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty View Post
    I expect price to be in the 16,000-18,000 range, too rich for my blood.


    I was also thinking it will probably be $18k. Too much more than that and I'm afraid they'll have problems selling something that's not supposed to be a top shelf RACE bike. I would pay that for one IF it turns out to be extremely reliable (think 80k+ low-maintenance miles with no major problems). Based on the engine design (and displacement) and the kinds of high-caliber minds which have been a part of the development process, I think potential for that kind of reliability is there. Time will tell, I suppose.
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    I question a chain drive with such a torque monster, but I bet it would pull the heck out of a TW on a trailer. That would be why I would want it--standard ergos and trailer towing torque with a full complement of luggage. I'd just camp along the way, heading north with the wildflowers and south with the fall colors.




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    The folks at KaTech are very busy these days.



    Remember that it required the services of Porsche to build the first decent HD motor, so why not let those who do it best design your new motor? Makes sense.



    http://thekneeslider.com/archives/20...ate-renovatio/



    This concept isn't new, by any means, but it's a good one.



    Back in the '80's we had the SuperVee. It was an apology for the Harley Davidson engines of the time. It used small block Chevy components available fron auto parts stores. It never really caught on, but the basic concept of a durable high performance engine which could be owner-maintained using inexpensive parts store and aftermarket pieces available nearly anywhere in the world was a good'n.



    No dealer network and boutique store overhead to support, no legal expenses incurred trying to patent the sound of your motor . Even if the initial purchase price were a bit high the cost of OWNERSHIP theoretically would not be. The OTHER American motorcycle was once this way, as were most American products.



    This used to be the basis for American buisiness. We'll pay a high price for durable goods, but we're only gunna do it once, and we expect to get a lifetime of service from the item or Gawd help your company once word gets arouns about your product, cuz we'll bury you.



    I hope they can get this off the ground in the current economic climate. It sounds like a good premise,.



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    Qwerty: I think chain drive will be fine. If the ZX14 and Hayabusa use a chain... If memory serves, those motors have slightly less torque but like 35 more horsepower.



    lizrdbrth: "...so why not let those who do it best design your new motor?" Agreed; I think this is definitely a better approach than building a frame around an air cooled HD v-twin. Plus I'm a huge fan of V-4 motors. My favorite being that in the Aprilia RSV4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kj7687 View Post
    Qwerty: I think chain drive will be fine. If the ZX14 and Hayabusa use a chain... If memory serves, those motors have slightly less torque but like 35 more horsepower.



    lizrdbrth: "...so why not let those who do it best design your new motor?" Agreed; I think this is definitely a better approach than building a frame around an air cooled HD v-twin. Plus I'm a huge fan of V-4 motors. My favorite being that in the Aprilia RSV4.


    ZX14 and Hayabusa are sport bikes with no pretense of being used for touring (though some are). Motus pretend to be a touring bike. I expect chains and sprockets given enough lube to prevent rusting will last 20,000 miles, anyway, or about as far as a BMW will go without setting its drive afire. I expect easier and cheaper gearing changes than on a belt or shaft, anyway, so it's a trade-off.




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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty View Post
    ZX14 and Hayabusa are sport bikes with no pretense of being used for touring (though some are). Motus pretend to be a touring bike. I expect chains and sprockets given enough lube to prevent rusting will last 20,000 miles, anyway, or about as far as a BMW will go without setting its drive afire. I expect easier and cheaper gearing changes than on a belt or shaft, anyway, so it's a trade-off.


    Yea true I do see your point. I wasn't really comparing their ST credentials, but rather the output of the motors in relation to their uses of chain drive. Personally I'd not hesitate for a second to throw some hard luggage on a 'busa and use it as Sport Tourer though (I've seen several reports of them going 80k+ miles, one guy even claims 160k miles). On a...related note, there is a video on YouTube of a guy hitting two hundred thousand miles on an '04 Honda CBR600 lol. I will be seriously pleased if I can get 50k out of my Ninja 500!
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