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    Question Gun guys -- input requested, please.

    I just picked up my first firearm a few days ago: a Savage Arms 64FSS (22 LR). I've broken in the bore as per recommendation from the manufacturer's web site -- basically fire shots, then clean bore with powder solvent, dry patches, copper solvent, dry patches, and oil patch. The issue is that after the break in (50 rounds through the bore) -- up to about 50 or so additional rounds now -- the rifle is shooting about 6 inches high at 25 yards. The rear sight is already as low as it can go (as it came from the factory). At this point I'm just wondering if my barrel is screwed somehow, or I just need to get a new rear (and/or front) sight for the rifle. At this point, I'm planning on probably trying another rear sight, but just wanted to see what people would say. The owner of the range took a couple of shots with it and verified/agreed that it is shooting high. Thanks in advance.




    EDIT: I should probably add that I only used my weed-whacker-line-bore-snake with patches and solvent and oil -- no brush/guide. The recommendation from the web site did say to use a brush as well, as part of the process, but I decided not to after reading up on the subject. I can't imagine that plastic, patches, and solvents could mess anything up, though, right? And AFAIK, a 22LR should shoot relatively just fine with or without any sort of break in, right?
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    If it's shooting high consistently I would say the OEM rear sight doesn't have enough range of adjustment or the front sight is too low. What range is the rifle designed for?
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    The Savage should have shot well right out of the box.180042_large.JPG
    Assuming the point of impact did not change during the break-in period I would return the rifle and exchange for another claiming defective. Six inches high seems seriously out of spec.
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    A taller front sight will work.......contact Savage. They are pretty good about these things and you may have to send it back to them for repairs.
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    I know this is an obvious question, but what kind of sight picture are you using? Figured its easier to get the simple stuff eliminated first.
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    1. Is there anything under the rear sight step ramp which could be removed?
    2. If so, remove it.
    3. The stepped rear sight ramp could be ground on the bottom to compensate.
    4. You could add a scope.
    5. You could return it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toecutter View Post
    I know this is an obvious question, but what kind of sight picture are you using? Figured its easier to get the simple stuff eliminated first.
    Very good point.
    Is the front sight level with the rear sight, when placed over the target?
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    Wow, thanks for the super quick replies!

    RBM: I'm not really sure exactly on the distance thing. It's a $230 gun, but from everything I've read, they are supposed to be very accurate right out of the box, like Fred said. The front sight is non-adjustable, and the rear sight is as low as it can go already (and has been the whole time).

    Fred: Is that your Savage Arms rifle? Looks good, lol! Mine does seem to shoot pretty consistently high (and has done since the first shots), but lateral accuracy seems very good (although I haven't really tested it yet, given the issues experienced).

    Fred/Elime: Do you think I should contact Savage Arms directly, or go through the dealer from which I purchased the firearm?




    Also, if I end up changing one of the sights and then it seems to shoot accurately, should I accept that it is "fixed", or might that be more of a patch on a defective product (and is there really even a difference, if POI is where I'm aiming, lol? --perhaps yes because of some premature/abnormal wear...?)?
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    Yes, the sight picture I've been using is such that the front post is centered between the rear sights, and the top of the front post is level with the tops of the rear sights. I have also been careful to ensure that I haven't been moving the rifle just before firing/while pulling the trigger; also, the guy at the range had the same experience with it (even when fired from a stool with the gun on a sandbag. I'm certainly not above error, but I'm quite certain that this isn't just a user error issue.

    SportsterDoc: There is nothing under the rear sight.
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    Photo is not of my Savage KJ, just clip art I grabbed from internet to play with the “out of the box” saying. I’m a scoped Ruger 10/22 kind of guy. For open sight pinking I use my grandfather’s Remington 12A takedown, the gun I learned to shot with. Still a fine piece of machinery.remington 12a.jpg
    Were it not for your meticulous efforts to break the rifle in properly I would normally say RTV - Return To Vendor, i.e. call, or take it to the dealer first.
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