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    When straws are outlawed, only outlaws will have straws!

    Who elects these bozos!

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    Only in California - Majority Leader Ian Calderon (D-Whittier) introduced a bill that would only allow restaurants to offer straws to dine-in customers if they ask for them. Assembly Bill 1884 would fine violators between $25 to $1,000. They could also be found guilty of a misdemeanor and be given a county jail sentence of less than six months.
    "We need to create awareness around the issue of one-time use plastic straws and its detrimental effects on our landfills, waterways, and oceans," Calderon said. "AB 1884 is not ban on plastic straws. It is a small step towards curbing our reliance on these convenience products, which will hopefully contribute to a change in consumer attitudes and usage."

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    Freaking nut job, should he not be working on how to help make the state solvent instead of this ??? !!! We need a nationally mandated federal and state mandated balanced budget phase in project.
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    California is broke, I guess they need ways to trick you and steal your money. I would like to see how much that POS had sent to the landfill in his life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TopPredator View Post
    ... I would like to see how much that POS had sent to the landfill in his life.
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    No problem, fiscal impact is to be lessened by California Franchise Tax Board recent claiming of 1/2 of the federal corporate tax savings just introduced by the Trump administration to be paid to California for this and other social engineering programs.. This should further accelerate corporate flight from California.
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    The oceans are turning into plastic soup - fines are silly - but it has to stop somewhere

    Curiously enough. Lebanon has a habit of burying it's rubbish on beaches - guess what happens everytime there's a storm ?

    Lebanon rubbish: Storm dumps piles of waste along coast - BBC News

    Either we address the issue or we lose our oceans - it's up to the politicians now, whether you like it or not, or whether you consider them "on-side" or not

    Here in Wales, we put a sale price on a simple plastic supermarket bag that had been free for years - "enshrined" it in law - who makes the laws - the politicians

    In a way, it's kinda nice to see them doing something positive for a change - something your kids will benefit from - although this particular one seems a bit draconian

    However - don't sweat it - you are still free to bear arms and kill each other at will - just watch out where you dump the bodies .......
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    Thought this was a discussion about plastics...... I don't think it will be economics or social engineering programs that limit California.... More likely lack of water... Not unlike Cape Town currently
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    "However - don't sweat it - you are still free to bear arms"

    Yes; and hopefully just like the last time:
    England having banned firearms (to whatever extent); having Hitler on her doorstep and no guns for the PEOPLE to fight with...........
    It was the American PEOPLE sending personnel firearms along with the government so the English people would have the ability to fight on their home land............:
    we would be able to do that again.

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