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    Awesome old-schl Jeep-platform "side by side" -- 4x4, diesel, low range t-case, 5 spd

    The Mahindra Roxor! I am in love with the design philosophy of this vehicle (IF it were street legal...) -- 100 percent bare-bones, old-school, minimalist, absolutely NO extra crap added onto it, and sensible and simple mechanical components. If it were street legal (and IF it's reliable), I'd have it over a brand new Rubicon JL any day! Some quick highlights (from the video and Mahindra official specs sheet):

    --2.5 liter 4-cylinder direct injection turbo diesel: 144 foot pounds at 1,400 RPM!!! (I bet it feels like a a smaller version of the old 4.2 liter straight six on the bottom end! , much like my 4Runner's 2.7 I4 feels a whole lot like a small version of the XJ 4-liter I6!), 62 horsepower (fine by me...!)

    --classic five speed manual transmission

    --solid front axle

    --3.73 gear ratio and proper low range transfer case (good old 2 hi, 4 hi, and 4 lo)

    --3,035 pound curb weight

    --3,500 pound towing capacity (apparently only in first or maybe second gear, LOL, but hey, I'll take it)

    --rear drum brakes...undoubtedly garbage. God I hate drums.

    *Note: The video presenter claims this is the only side by side with a 5 speed and manual clutch; that's not true: there's the Yamaha YXZ1000.

    Personally, I find it totally asinine that our government allows us to ride motorcycles on public roads but not one of these, because it doesn't meet automotive industry safety standards. Sorry, but come on, that is stupid. If we can ride a motorcycle legally, there is just no reason not to be able to drive something like this! How seriously cool would it be if you could buy one of these (or something like it) brand new and use it on the street.

    I don't know about the reliability. I might assume that it would be pretty good, but I just do not know. And I guess that's the big question. For me personally, it would need to be able to last AT LEAST 100,000 miles without issues. Also, I wouldn't buy it as an off-road-only toy, unless I were very wealthy and already had lots of toys. Then this thing would be a nice novelty piece. Without street legality and extreme reliability, there is just absolutely no competition whatsoever compared to the Yamaha.


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    Top Gear rated the pre-Roxor Mahrinda Jeep years ago as one of the worst vehicles in the world. Better now.
    Yet somehow KJ, wouldn't you rather have a Shaman?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sthrnromr View Post
    Yea, I know it can be made legal in some states. I'm in good old California, LOL... I like that article by the way -- great writing style and humor.
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    Fred: Hmm, interesting. I wonder how the Roxor would compare. But yea, that and legality would be the two big hurdles for me. The Shaman is pretty nifty LOL but too slow and...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$...haha I know the Roxor is not a realistic possibility right now, I just like the minimalist approach to design. It doesn't have any stupid, boring, overweight, overpriced "features". I hate features. They are just extra weight and a grand waste of time, space, and money, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe some time in the next couple decades I can find an old YJ or CJ in someone's barn and do a mechanical restoration with replacement engine, trans, axles, suspension, etc. I actually roughly calculated that I could do that with all brand new components for like 16 to 18 grand (right around the price of a new non-legal Roxor, coincidentally) including the purchase of a broken-down pile of a beater YJ (basically would only need a half-decent frame and body -- not really an issue in SoCal).
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    Good plan to do your own reliable simple build. These already well built Suzukies can occasionally be found for reasonable money, or start with a stock and up the 2.5 inch suspension travel with some coils and Dana 44s. I've seem a few really move quicker than any jeep over broken rocky Sierra terrain. Suzuki.jpg
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    The Roxor review video was unfortunately filmed in rather mild terrain I would not hesitate to take a Crown Victoria through. Something requiring 4-lo would better demonstrate the differences and strengths of a Jeep like vehicle compared to the competing off-road only side-by-sides ( which are legal around here for road use in municipalities with less than 40,000 souls).
    Day play is great, and perhaps by far the most common use of 4x4s and UTVs here in America. However there ability to carry camp gear, pets and family on overnights deep in the Nasties seems to be best demonstrated by true, or skelonized 4x4s.
    My childhood was flavored by stock CJ5s, perhaps towing a 4x6 trailer full of camp gear, through what is now considered some really worn out Sierra Extreme Jeep routes. Old narrow jeeps like the Mahindra could fit between obstacles that thwart their modern interpretations. A new jeep will not fit between many a tree!
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    I'm with Fred regarding the Samurais but if your going to do an axle swap go Toyota.
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    My buddy and neighbor has a Samurai and it convinced me to get my own. I have $8,000 into it and it's now bone stock. Runs GREAT!
    His is all hopped up and he's wanting to sell his for $8,000. The guy is a machinist and knows what he's doing when it came to modding his Zuk. Here's a video;
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