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    Could it be??? FZ-07 Based ADV Bike?

    This one has some serious potential:

    New Yamaha Tenere 700 Prototype Spotted - ADV Pulse

    The first time I saw a picture of an XT660Z Tenere I was seriously intrigued, until I realized that it's powered by a big thumper. No thanks.

    This new 700 twin, if they do it right, could be the cat's pajamas. If they can make it as light as the rumor mill said the new Africa Twin was going to be (under 450 Lbs - which of course the AT is NOT in reality), it could be a phenomenal machine. I sure hope they don't screw it up!
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    Most of those big adventure bike seldom see and off road miles. They are bought and used just like most of the expensive jeeps and Hummers with all the bells and whistles for boulevarding.
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    The fz-o7 and fz-o9 are really good bikes and are selling very well. I think this one will fly out the door. I think I would seriously consider one as I'm already well aware of the fz-o7 & o9 and how they torque low end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phelonius View Post
    Most of those big adventure bike seldom see and off road miles. They are bought and used just like most of the expensive jeeps and Hummers with all the bells and whistles for boulevarding.
    Indeed, that is true, not that there is anything wrong with that. There are plenty of features of big enduros that also work to the benefit of street-only riders. If you buy a bike, truck, or Jeep than I think you should use it however you want so long as that makes you happy. As the rider of a street legal Rokon hack, I'm sure you would agree that the intended use of a vehicle is less important than the actual use that the owner enjoys.

    Of course, part of the problem is that big enduros have become more and more street biased by design, which is what makes a lighter bike with an 18/21 wheel set and decent suspension so appealing for those of us that actually do use our ADV bikes off-pavement. Plenty of riders thrashed (and some continue to thrash) their KTM 950s and 990s in the rough stuff, if this 700 is anything like those dirt monsters than I'm sure plenty of riders will abuse them similarly and love every minute of it.

    Rally Raid UK has had to temporarily stop taking orders for their CB500X Level 3 Conversion kits so that they can expand the production machinery in their shop to meet the demand. That is market-based proof positive that there are a lot of riders out there that want a genuinely dirt capable adventure bike. An FZ-07 based ADV bike could be a real factory alternative to what Rally Raid is offering, and with an 18/21 wheel set, Yamaha reliability, and a low enough wet weight it could even ascend to the throne that KTM left vacant when they discontinued the 990 ADV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mountain redbelly View Post
    The fz-o7 and fz-o9 are really good bikes and are selling very well. I think this one will fly out the door. I think I would seriously consider one as I'm already well aware of the fz-o7 & o9 and how they torque low end.
    I demo'd an FZ-09, and that bike was positively face-melting. What an engine! Keep in mind, my daily rider is a 135 hp/90 Lb-ft Triumph 1215 triple and the FZ-09 still made a huge impression on me. If I was in the market for a chain driven sport tourer I would be all about the FJ-09. From the many complaints about the 'character' of the Super Tenere's 1200, I think Mr. Yamaha might have been well served to mate that 847 Triple to a shaft drive for their flagship adventure bike instead. Still, I think the triple is probably too much engine for dirt riding, the 700 twin is most likely a better fit.
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    I'd be interested in one if it makes it to the U.S.
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    Me too if it doesn't have a 36" seat height. Which it will! They all sit way too high.


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    I've done a few good solid high speed power wheelies on an FZ09, Don, and I couldn't agree more about the engine. Put that beast in A-mode and WOW, it really yanks you along lol! Personally I think the FZ-07 engine would be much better for an ADV bike, though.

    I have to admit, this could be a pretty nice ADV bike, if...

    If they, by some miracle, manage to get a final production model to weigh in at 425 pounds wet, I might even be seriously interested; that's almost light enough to use as a dual sport. Power and transmission highly suitable for all day fast lane blasting, but still half decent off road - it could be nice.


    On a side note, Don, how have you been getting on with your Rally Raid 3 CB500X? Any issues yet with the bike or with any part of the kit? How has it been riding off road on that bike? Do any somewhat serious enduro stuff on it?
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    Who hit it with an ugly stick ????????OMM.
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    This also could be something promising

    Honda NX650 Dominator Coming Back for 2017? - ADV Pulse


    IMO, however, an NX650 would fail miserably in today's market without a few major changes to reflect the modern age (minus the extra million pounds...).

    I know nothing of any details of this patent, but seems more logical to me that the patents would be for a factory-Honda CB500 Adventure, or something similar.
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