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    Lightbulb New drz/ old xrl...

    So I've been heavily favoring a NEW DRZ as my next bike, but I may have reached an epiphany on that: I don't like carburetors, and I'm not sure, realistically, that I can justify investing $8,500 in a NEW machine that still uses one... So I've been thinking that if no manufacturer debuts something that meets all my requirements (EFI, 350+, reliable/low stress/low maintenance motor, relatively light weight, relatively inexpensive, etc.) within the next year or so, I might go for an older Honda XR650L for around $2,500. The older XRL's are getting more and more affordable. So are the older DR 650's, but they have problems that I wouldn't want to deal with (I'd only buy a later-model DR650). Basically, an XRL that I would deem suitable for my needs should be obtainable for a good thousand dollars less than a suitable DR650 or DRZ.

    Anyway, these are merely the ramblings of a delusional fool. Pay me no heed
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    You can practically feel the monstrous bottom end torque of this awesome motor, in this video! Sweet! Man I love these old open class thumpers. Even the powerhouse enduro bikes of today can't compete with them in the sheer ridiculousness of the sub 3k RPM torque! If you've got a good sound system, crank it up a bit and have a listen

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    That is awesome!

    Quote Originally Posted by kj7687 View Post
    You can practically feel the monstrous bottom end torque of this awesome motor, in this video! Sweet! Man I love these old open class thumpers. Even the powerhouse enduro bikes of today can't compete with them in the sheer ridiculousness of the sub 3k RPM torque! If you've got a good sound system, crank it up a bit and have a listen

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    What years should I look for?

    Quote Originally Posted by kj7687 View Post
    You can practically feel the monstrous bottom end torque of this awesome motor, in this video! Sweet! Man I love these old open class thumpers. Even the powerhouse enduro bikes of today can't compete with them in the sheer ridiculousness of the sub 3k RPM torque! If you've got a good sound system, crank it up a bit and have a listen

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    What do you want to be able to do with the bike?
    If you are hoping to do some single track go with the DRZ as the XRL is a pig.
    If you are looking at FSRs and Hwy then the XLR.

    Ever thought of the WR250r?
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    As far as I know, there have been virtually no changes to the model through its whole production run. The only common problem I know of with the XR650L is that the CDI can sometimes fail and cause intermittent cutting out. To me that isn't a big deal because a) it isn't that common, b) it's very easy to fix, and c) just carry a spare CDI (one verified-good) - problem solved.
    Last edited by kj7687; 05-25-2016 at 11:22 PM.
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    I know the XRL is a bit of a pig, but it will be cheaper to buy in the first place compared to a DRZ, and also will not require radiator guards or cooling system maintenance, and the valve adjustments are easier (I prefer the screw-type adjustments). I guess I figure if I'm going to buy something used, I may as well get something OLD and cheap. I don't want to spend 60% of the cost of a new bike and still get into the risks involved in buying used. If I'm going to take the "used risk", I'd rather gamble with as little money as possible.

    I do quite like the WR250R, but I need a bit more power. I do some SERIOUS hill climbing, and a 250 just doesn't cut it sometimes - even a relatively powerful one like the WRR. I need bottom end grunt that those bikes don't have. My other primary considerations in the used market are the XT350's or the 91-93 (?) DR350's. A used DRZ could be quite nice (I do realize that technically, they would make superior enduro bikes, compared to these other options). But they cost a bit more. A big advantage of buying used is to save money, so I'd want to save as much as I can if I go that route. $2,500 would be pretty close to tops for a used bike, for me anyway. I would never even be considering another used bike at all, if someone would make the damn bike I want already!

    I will be doing plenty of gnarly off road stuff with whatever bike I get, but I'm confident that I can handle any dual sport off road (although I don't deny some will be better/easier than others).


    I'm pretty darn happy with my little bikes for the most part, but sometimes it does get frustrating dealing with the obscene lack of power, haha

    I've been riding my brother's 87 XR600 quite a bit lately - and oh my god that torque is addicting! You can cruise up to the base of a big ass hill at 20 mph and like 2,500 RPM in second gear and it pulls just as well as if it were at 7k RPM. It doesn't seem to matter what speed or RPM the engine is at - if you feed it fuel, it will spin up and go regardless!
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    That low end grunt us awesome!


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    Just ride the snot out of that XT for awhile longer and save up for the Beta...
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