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    Getting a Utah Title for the XL600R

    Getting a title for an untitled bike is a topic that comes up every now and again, so I thought that I would relate my story here.

    I got this 1986 XL600R from a friend that had it sitting in his barn in Arizona for quite a few years. This bike was given to him as a parts bike since it has a broken cam and damaged head.
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    The person who gave him the bike was from Nevada. He was not the original owner and had cut a section of the Oil holding frame. Presumably to get the engine out easier.
    So I begin a tear down with the assumption that if I can't get a title I will part it out.
    I started with the Nevada DMV. They told me that it wasn't a Nevada title, but would not give me any more info, and all but accused me of stealing the thing.
    Next stop was a DMV just about 9 miles up the road in Beaver Dam Arizona. They were much nicer, told me that it wasn't a Arizona title, but that they did a search and found it was a Utah title.

    A little internet research, and I found that Utah has a form and system in place to claim title of salvage or abandoned vehicles if they are worth less than $1000.
    So this last week I was up in Utah at a scout camp. Well I had some time and took a drive to the DMV just outside Hurricane Ut. Walked in, zero wait (amazing), Told my story and handed him my filled out form. He asked if I had pictures, I did.
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    He took the paperwork and pictures back to his superior, they did a vin search and such, came back out and said, "sign here, that will be $6, and you should get the title in 3 weeks" I was in, done, and out in under 15 minutes.
    Say what you like about Utah, but it is my new favorite state.
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    Is that a broken camshaft? How does that happen?
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    That's the way it should work! Simple and easy.

    I have found and ran into similar issues here living in a Tri-State area of KY, OH, & IN. Ohio is the worst to deal with requiring the most and wanting to be the least helpful. I have opinions as to why but will not go there.

    What I have found and experienced is that dirt bikes (especially ones that have street possibilities), ATV's, etc; are often in a grey area when it come to titles. Many places do not even require a bill of sales but even that has become much more prevalent these days. I see and have done deals where I have just created a "bill of sale" myself just so I could prove where I bought the bike. I bought a 2009 Honda Rancher 4x4 quad in 2010 from a guy in Ohio and that did not have a title but should have from that state. The guy was getting divorced and lost his title or the Ex would not give it to him. Not big deal since they are not required to be titled here.

    I see this stuff changing merely as a way for the local governments to collect more tax cash etc; That and many of these recreational vehicles cost so damn much new nowadays. Hell, some of these side by sides are more expensive than cars. And go get your check book out buying a new KTM dirt bike. Hell, if I was laying out $10 grand on a dirt scooter I'd want some paperwork for it.

    I imagine there is and / or was a huge black market for "parts" bikes. Older off road bikes still fall beneath the radar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elime View Post
    Is that a broken camshaft? How does that happen?
    Grab each end and bend it really, really, really, really, really hard !
    Last edited by TW-Brian; 06-27-2016 at 12:04 PM. Reason: Fixed typo
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    Quote Originally Posted by elime View Post
    Is that a broken camshaft? How does that happen?
    In reading as much as I could find online, there are reports that they can become oil starved on the far side of the head. You can't really see it in that picture but once I cleaned up the broken cam, the far side was deeply blued and blackened. Rockers were the same. It got seriously hot before it snapped. Some re-builders will drill out and enlarge the oil passages to address the issue.
    Not really what you would expect from Honda engineers, but it happens.
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