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    I'm thinking of selling my 2015 XT 250...

    [ EDIT: Sorry for my melodrama. I was getting pretty pissed, because on account of all my research and everything that I think I know...the likelihood of a complete engine failure at such low mileage should be very low. Anyway...

    I found the source of the noise. My upper chain roller was missing. The bolt that holds the round rubber piece in place had some light grind-marks on it (from the chain rubbing on it sometimes, when it would slap around - because the roller wasn't there to stop it slapping around, I guess). I'm thinking maybe this piece missing could also be the cause of my other issue - the chain was "jumping teeth" on the back sprocket, when under excessive load/digging deep into the dirt. Or that could have been caused by the chain contacting the chain-roller-bolt. I'm debating if I should buy a new roller and put it on. I'm thinking that I should...because that roller will keep tension on the chain when the shock is compressed. I just wonder if the stock roller will still work fine with the significantly larger-diameter rear sprocket (which makes the chain rest higher/closer to the bottom of the upper chain roller). Or would I need to shave the diameter of the roller down or something? Hmm. I'm guessing it'll probably be fine with the stock tensioner. I just need to see how much clearance there would be, at different shock-stroke positions, and see if it looks like enough. The suspension's so damn soft on these bikes that I can compress the shock all the way just by pushing the back of the bike down lol. Thoughts? ]











    It's started making a noise recently...somewhat intermittent, light scratchy/tappy sort of noise. A friend suggested that perhaps countershaft bearing could be the culprit, and I think he may well be right. I don't feel any play at all in the countershaft, but maybe it's just at the beginning stage, or maybe it's something else entirely.

    Anyway, I don't really like the idea of tearing into motors. I've done it before, but I don't like it. Too much can go wrong, and it takes a hell of a lot of time. I don't have time.

    Other than this, everything on the bike works great. So I've thought about selling it (fairly disclosing this information, of course). I'm thinking I could almost certainly get at least $2,500, maybe as much as $3,000. It's got less than 8k miles and lots of nice mods. I'm a pretty patient seller, so don't get any ideas of scoring it for much less than someone out there will pay, lol

    Anyway, if I sell it, I'd replace it really soon with probably a used DRZ, or something similar.

    I'll do all maintenance work, valve adjustments, clutch replacement, electrical, intake/carb/exhaust stuff, etc. But I don't want to mess around with things like valve replacements or bottom end work. I just really don't want to go there. It's probably actually relatively easy to replace the CS bearing; I think it can be done with the engine in the frame...

    Anyway, opinions??
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    Quote Originally Posted by AGman View Post
    Counter-shaft bearing will be an engine out and split the cases job.
    Sigh. Damn it. I hadn't really looked into it. I can't seem to find a bike that will hold up to the way I ride it, other than the DR, which has been amazing. Maybe the trick is to start buying more Suzukis.

    I really thought I'd done it right and gotten something that would last years this time. Meticulous, proper break in on a brand new bike, perfect, religious maintenance routine, etc. and still I get screwed. I'm so tired of this.

    I guess I could positively identify the issue and fix it; it's not like that would be impossible. But even if I could do that, it wouldn't be back together and fixed for several months - if case-splitting is required - (I just don't have any time, and to be blunt, I'm sick of rebuilding motors: I don't have the motivation to do that as a damn maintenance item...rebuilds should NOT be part of "normal maintenance", that's bull shit lol), and I certainly don't have two grand to pay some jerk at the dealer to do it wrong. What sucks is that I can't know for sure if that bearing is bad without replacing it...or riding the bike until the bearing explodes. I really don't know, it's just a virtually untested hypothesis at this point. I guess it could be wheel bearings after all, too, although I did check that previously as well, and found no play at all in the rear wheel/hub.

    I don't really notice any noise while just spinning the tire by hand, but it's definitely noticeable when shifting and particularly at lower RPM/light throttle. As someone suggested in my thread discussing my chain issue (which is probably somehow related to whatever this is), something is not apparent under neutral conditions, but makes itself apparent when under a certain load. Aggh.
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    I have always liked the idea of the xt, but for some reason with that type of bike the tw had me. I do have a drz also, and it is pretty bomb proof from what i have been reading, its reliable and doesnt miss a beat. For me the tw was for cruising around on trails and exploring/finding new stuff....then take the drz our there if i want to rip it, lol. I love the low upkeep on the drz, but for some reason I am wanting more of a dirt bike and less of dual sport these days to compliment the tw.....really considering a plated sherco 300i or and older husaberg 390 if i can find one.....not you got me thinking the drz might be on the chopping block, lol.

    Anywho, best of luck with that engine, I hope you find it to be something that will not require a case split, I would like to think those XT's can run much longer than that and not miss a beat, i thought they were just as reliable as the tdubs, but i guess i could be wrong. I wonder how a cs bearing could go bad so quickly, hopefully its not crank bearings.

    Those XT's do hold their value for sure, but its because they are known to be reliable, selling one and disclosing the issue (which is the right thing to do of course) could hurt the value you are seeking quite a bit for most people, they buy those bikes because they are worry free. Best of luck, i hope you find its something super simple.
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    u should just take some time and really trouble shoot it, my son wr250f sounded like the engine was going to explode with a chug chug at idle did a bit of reading different forms and found that they had a problem with that magneto ... cup.. and found that the magneto cup rivets were loose, took cup off and hammer them really hard on anvil..... all fixed,, got lucky i guess .....a stethoscope is at really good tool to have in your tool box...

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    Can you find a spare engine to run while you diagnose/fix the original? Then sell the spare to recoup costs. Or keep for back up.
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    Having owned several different types of bikes I can tell you they all will fail at some point. Heck I've had simple single speed bicycles crap out on me. This is even more true if you ride it hard. That said I raced a Suzuki quad with the DRZ style motor and the only major thing that failed was the clutch plates. Put in a full EBC kit and never had another problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AGman View Post
    Trade it in on a WR250F or similar. If your hard on them then buy something that will handle it. I'm surprised the DR is taking the punishment, Ive found them to turn into a pile of rubble way faster than a Yamaha...having said that the DR & XT are made out of Japan now so the chances of getting a lemon with either is much higher.
    I'd love a WRF (I'd get the 450) but I really want the license plate, and I just can't imagine a bike like that going 1000 hours without engine work, either (the DR 200 has, by my conservative estimation, at least 800 hours on the original, unmolested motor; the XT has around 300).
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    Maybe you should try a BMW. I have 30000 miles on my f700gs now and done less maintenance and repairs on it than any of my Honda's, Kawasaki's, Yamaha's with the same milage on them.Oh wait, BMW is an old man's bike.
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    UPDATE: see "EDIT" in original post.


    As for the DRZ motor...I'm going to stick with what I know (can't let a stupid little thing like this problem ruin my confidence in such things...I swear these damn motorcycles play with my emotions more than women, lol!): those motors are among the very best you can buy, if you're looking for something that won't fall apart! And so is this damn XT 250 motor, damn it, lol!!! I've planned for 30k miles out of this one, and I mean to get it! If I keep riding it like I have been, that'll be over 1,200 hours!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtomelliott49 View Post
    Can you find a spare engine to run while you diagnose/fix the original? Then sell the spare to recoup costs. Or keep for back up.
    It would seem that I have found the source of the issue (and I do feel a bit stupid for not finding it a long time ago)!
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