Starting work on the '94
Close
    
    
Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. #1
    Senior Member Omega Man's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Taxachusetts
    Posts
    173
    I just ordered a bunch of O-rings, oil filter and related. This means a removal of the oil filter housing. It has 2 Phillips and 1 Allen in it now. It makes me think it will take some patience to not snap something.

    While the bike only has 2,250 miles on it, I need to change the chain due to a lot more rust on it than I'd like to see. I haven't counted the teeth on the sprockets yet but would like to start off on the right foot with the O-ring chain and sprockets when I figure the tooth count. As both of these repairs require screw removal I was wondering if anyone has taken the time to change them to Allen head? TIA, Gary
    "It's more fun going fast on a slow bike than going slow on a fast bike" UK

    1994 TW200, 2009 F800GS loaded,

  2. #2
    Senior Member srs713's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Smyrna, GA, USA
    Posts
    1,417
    Those are not phillips, they are "Japanese Industry Standard". Be very careful or they will strip too.



    Now would be a good time to shop your local hardware store and change over to all Allen heads.
    Stephen S.

    '07 TW200:

    15/50 sprockets, O-ring chain, D2Moto foot pegs

    tweaked carb (127.5 jet, 0.019 needle shim, idle screw @2.25),

    Rubbermaid "Action Packer" on homemade brackets

  3. #3
    Senior Member Rainman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Ephrata, WA
    Posts
    1,125
    I recommend that you get a kit to replace the screws. You'll end up stripping the heads and you'll start cursing the bike. Like srs713 said, they are not phillips, rather JIS screws which strip easily when removed with a standard phillips screw driver.



    I bought a kit from alloyboltz via ebay. It was under 30 bucks and everything fit great. Now when I have to remove my side cases, all I need is a 5mm allen head driver. It was worth the money to me big time.



    Try this link.



    I went to the hardware store before I bought my kit and priced out individual bolts for the engine cases. I couldn't find the longer bolts that hold on the starter motor. If I bought individual bolts, the cost was over 50 bucks.



    The alloyboltz.com kit was under 30 bucks. You can order from them here.



    There are other brands, so you can shop around. Make sure you use anti-sieze because of the stainless vs. aluminum.
    If you can't find it, grind it

    1990 TW200

  4. Remove Advertisements
    TW200Forum.com
    Advertisements
     

  5. #4
    Senior Member Omega Man's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Taxachusetts
    Posts
    173
    Quote Originally Posted by srs713 View Post
    Those are not phillips, they are "Japanese Industry Standard". Be very careful or they will strip too.



    Now would be a good time to shop your local hardware store and change over to all Allen heads.
    I have the Impact Driver all warmed up!





    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman View Post
    I recommend that you get a kit to replace the screws. You'll end up stripping the heads and you'll start cursing the bike. Like srs713 said, they are not phillips, rather JIS screws which strip easily when removed with a standard phillips screw driver.



    I bought a kit from alloyboltz via ebay. It was under 30 bucks and everything fit great. Now when I have to remove my side cases, all I need is a 5mm allen head driver. It was worth the money to me big time.



    Try this link.



    I went to the hardware store before I bought my kit and priced out individual bolts for the engine cases. I couldn't find the longer bolts that hold on the starter motor. If I bought individual bolts, the cost was over 50 bucks.



    The alloyboltz.com kit was under 30 bucks. You can order from them here.



    There are other brands, so you can shop around. Make sure you use anti-sieze because of the stainless vs. aluminum.
    Great, thanks. That was the sort of info I was looking for. I tried a search but haven't got the hang of the key-words here. On the V-Bulletin sites this sort of info can be "tagged" and entered into the "tag" cloud-doesn't seem to be an option on the forum. +1 on the anti-sieze, dissimilar metals really like to become one. I already started with the PB Blaster.
    "It's more fun going fast on a slow bike than going slow on a fast bike" UK

    1994 TW200, 2009 F800GS loaded,

  6. #5
    Senior Member Rainman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Ephrata, WA
    Posts
    1,125
    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    I have the Impact Driver all warmed up!







    Great, thanks. That was the sort of info I was looking for. I tried a search but haven't got the hang of the key-words here. On the V-Bulletin sites this sort of info can be "tagged" and entered into the "tag" cloud-doesn't seem to be an option on the forum. +1 on the anti-sieze, dissimilar metals really like to become one. I already started with the PB Blaster.




    You are most welcome.



    As far as the search goes, hop onto google.com and type in: site:tw200forum.com alloy boltz or change alloy boltz to whatever you are searching for. That is the best way to search this site.



    When I first got my bike, I changed sprockets, the clutch, the oil, etc... and after a while, the stock screws started to get stripped because I used a standard phillips screw driver. I was afraid that one day they would strip to the point where I couldn't get them off, so thats why I went with the stainless allen heads. I am so very happy with them.
    If you can't find it, grind it

    1990 TW200

  7. #6
    Member Hoogie514's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Alberta, Canada
    Posts
    64
    Make sure you have 4 clear and open holes in the rubber and metal on the end of the filter! There are bad one out there, I just got a bad one a few weeks ago!


    Hoogie514

    1987 TW200 - Currently undergoing a complete winter rebuild!

    2006 Suzuki King Quad 700 - Twin Air, HMF Slip on

    2010 Suzuki King Quad 500

  8. #7
    Banned qwerty's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    NW Tennessee
    Posts
    10,664
    Stainless allen heads and milk-of-magnesia. Changed the carb float bowl and slide screws, too, as well as those on the handlebar controls. Tdub has allen heads or hex heads everywhere possible.




  9. #8
    Senior Member Omega Man's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Taxachusetts
    Posts
    173
    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty View Post
    Stainless allen heads and milk-of-magnesia. Changed the carb float bowl and slide screws, too, as well as those on the handlebar controls. Tdub has allen heads or hex heads everywhere possible.
    Milk-of Magnesia? Anyway, parts are in, oil filter looks right. Ordered a case cover gasket, going to go with 14/47 gears and it looks like a DID O-ring change. I'll do it all at once.
    "It's more fun going fast on a slow bike than going slow on a fast bike" UK

    1994 TW200, 2009 F800GS loaded,

  10. #9
    Senior Member n2o2diver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Dothan, AL
    Posts
    1,715
    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    Milk-of Magnesia?


    To help prevent the Stainless Steel Bolts from seizing into the Aluminum Bike Parts. Dissimilar Metals, they will corrode!!!
    Hidden Content

    2005 TW200 (SOLD)
    2013 DR650

  11. #10
    Senior Member Omega Man's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Taxachusetts
    Posts
    173
    Quote Originally Posted by n2o2diver View Post
    To help prevent the Stainless Steel Bolts from seizing into the Aluminum Bike Parts. Dissimilar Metals, they will corrode!!!
    Hmmm, It's nice to stock a product that will serve a dual purpose. I generally use this-

    Permatex never-seize

    I don't think it's dual purpose though.
    "It's more fun going fast on a slow bike than going slow on a fast bike" UK

    1994 TW200, 2009 F800GS loaded,

Sponosred Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Similar Threads

  1. Hard starting
    By cjnett1 in forum Technical Help
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: 09-07-2012, 07:51 PM
  2. Tried Jump Starting, now nothing
    By TXTW in forum Technical Help
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 06-19-2012, 02:49 PM
  3. Starting Problems
    By MojoJojo in forum Technical Help
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 10-21-2011, 01:02 PM
  4. Push starting a TW
    By PalmStateCrawler in forum General Discussion
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 10-07-2011, 08:51 PM
  5. TW 125 starting problem
    By tw125 in forum Technical Help
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 08-01-2011, 02:15 PM