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    Rear rack gear box

    So I just installed my Cycleracks rear rack. Thanks Don & Marc. Now I would like to put a SOLID gear box on it. My idea is that I want to mount my rotopax to the back of the box and the lid still open freely. I don't have the rear hoop on my rack so I have 14" to work with front to back, including the 3 1/2" rotopax. I would like to stay within the 18" side to side as well. Any ideas or suggestions would be most appreciated.
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    Hey Cowboy...can't help you with your question, but just noticed your license plate .
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    My honor to serve. No worries everyone, found a tool box that fit perfectly, mounted it, tried it, hated it. On to the next bright idea.

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    I added a 2x4 under mine and painted it black for extra support. I have heard way to many horror stores of broken welds. This should keep the rack from flexing.

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    I run a Pelican case and I like it. Waterproof and tough but a little on the heavy side.
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    I bought a TW that had this custom fitted Pelican box easy to take on and off and very durable and waterproof
    specially fitted for a Cyclerack
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    i tried the rotopax on top of the top box on top of the cyclerack. didn't work out for me. the fuel tank was too heavy for the hings on the top box and the top box and fuel tank were too heavy for the cycle rack. it worked a lot better with a bigger gas tank, no BS with fuel transfer and the extra fuel weight worked better up front25.JPG
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    I got a case from these guys...they are almost exact match to pelican but much less money. Various sizes available.

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    Kinda like this?



    I like the idea of a 2x4 underneath to support it more. I should look into that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NVcowboy View Post
    So I just installed my Cycleracks rear rack. Thanks Don & Marc. Now I would like to put a SOLID gear box on it. My idea is that I want to mount my rotopax to the back of the box and the lid still open freely. I don't have the rear hoop on my rack so I have 14" to work with front to back, including the 3 1/2" rotopax. I would like to stay within the 18" side to side as well. Any ideas or suggestions would be most appreciated.
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    Hey NVcowboy, thank you for your service! Too many people these days don't have a clue what you guys do for our freedoms and show no appreciation for the sacrifices our soldiers make!

    IMHO you bought the best rack in the market. I also run a Cyclerack without the rear end hump with a 18" x 18" x 12" box (Hardigg military surplus from Sportsmanguide) fixed installed on it. On a normal day, I carry about 40lbs but I pushed it to 65lbs and occasionally take it off-road. See my profile pic...

    After 3 years, the weld on the rear mount plate succumbed to fatigue. Not a welding or material issue, just that the rack flexes with that kind of weight and starts to swing around that weld point because the TW200, unlike most other bikes, does not have a real mount point any further back. Don and Marc are awesome guys and they replaced the rack... after 3 years of usage!!! These days, where do you find a company that stands by its product this way???!!!!

    So I was thinking along the lines of a wood piece or something similar as TopPredator is suggesting, and that probably works well for most cases. At the time I was (and quietly still am) planning a Singapore to Beijing trip with my TW. I was going to put significantly more on it than 65lbs... side cases with tools and spare parts, bag and tent on the top case.... so I knew that the sub-frame which is under the rack would not support that weight, especially with off-road bumps and an occasional catching air.

    Consequently, I put my engineering hat on and designed something I could print to solve the problem:
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    The design is based on the direct line between the mount points changing length when the rack swings, so the force is actually push-pull between the mount points (horizontal) vs. push-pull is the direction of gravity (vertical). The subframe back there is not made to withstand a lot of vertical forces but it can handle plenty of force horizontally.

    I'm running with it for 2 years now and so far so good. With only 12kmi on this design I consider it a "tested prototype". I have not thought much about selling this directly, but if you're interested I'll send you one (for free ) for trying it out to let me know what you think how I can improve it and most importantly if you were able to break it!

    Cheers, Bert.
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