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    Upshifting

    2014, 900 miles, fresh oil change (dyno), proper break in followed etc...

    My bike has been "difficult" to upshift since new. The difficulty is in comparison to all other motorcycles and atv's I've owned.

    I wear fairly heavy leather boots when riding but the force it takes to upshift actually hurts the top of my foot. It's definitely worse when the bike is cold and seems to have less resistance when warm.

    Fyi downshifting feels completely normal and has the typical clunk that you'd expect from this machine.
    No clutch slipping, dragging or anything else abnormal.

    Anyone experience this? Will it get better over time?

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    Do you use your clutch when you upshift? If not do you notice a difference when you do?
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    It's pretty normal. They always seem to shift better right after a oil change or when you go to synthetic oil later on. I wouldn't worry about it. Check to see if the clutch is fully dis -engaging.
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    Synthetic motorcycle oil is the way to go. OIL
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeysRyder View Post
    Do you use your clutch when you upshift? If not do you notice a difference when you do?
    Yes. Always
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    Quote Originally Posted by littletommy View Post
    It's pretty normal. They always seem to shift better right after a oil change or when you go to synthetic oil later on. I wouldn't worry about it. Check to see if the clutch is fully dis -engaging.
    Ok.... I'm fine with it if it's normal. My foot just needs to toughen up!

    I prob won't change to synthetic until 2,000 miles. My memory tells me that it's suggested to use dyno until then...?

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    I switch to synthetic at the 1st oil change.
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    I wouldn't go full synthetic until at least 1,500 miles or so. I don't know if I will, but if so, it will be closer to 3,000. That's IF I do switch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Werloc View Post
    I wouldn't go full synthetic until at least 1,500 miles or so. I don't know if I will, but if so, it will be closer to 3,000. That's IF I do switch.
    Why is that?
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    Supposedly the greater "slipperiness" of the synthetic oils interferes with the proper break-in of rings; they need to scuff a bit against the cylinder wall otherwise a bit of glazing can occur leading to pre-mature compression loss....or so I have heard. Whether this is urban legend or accumulated motor-head wisdom I do not know, but it sounds credible and certainly saves a few coins during first couple thousand miles or so when we like to do frequent oil changes to flush out manufacturing and break-in debris.
    As far as Mkfchef's upshifting difficulty I suppose if bike is still on warrantee it could go back to a Yamaha dealer so their mechanics can abuse the poor thing then return it saying " Dat's normal".
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