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    I have a few electrical questions for the local gurus



    Regarding the over-rides and safty switches. What are they and how to bypass them.



    I see a pair of wire going into the clutch perch, whats that for?



    I have a 1987 if that matters



    thankyou in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by demarko69 View Post
    I have a few electrical questions for the local gurus



    Regarding the over-rides and safty switches. What are they and how to bypass them.



    I see a pair of wire going into the clutch perch, whats that for?



    I have a 1987 if that matters



    thankyou in advance




    I'm no expert, but I'll tell you what I know:



    The wire that goes into the clutch perch tells the bike that the clutch is engaged/disengaged. This allows you to start the bike in gear if you pull the clutch lever in.



    There is a neutral safety switch on the left side of the bike that I really don't know much about.



    There is a switch on the kickstand. This switch will kill the bike if it is in gear and you put the kickstand down.



    The kickstand switch is probably the most problematic due to its location. Water and crud can get into the switch and make it stick. Sometimes the bike won't start, or it will die while you are riding. Others have reported that when you travel a bumpy road, the kickstand can vibrate and the kickstand switch will cause the bike to run intermittently.



    The kickstand switch is probably the easiest one to bypass. Follow the wire up to where it joins the wire harness. Unplug it, and use a piece of wire to complete the circuit. Or cut off the factory connection and put on some butt connectors to complete the circuit.



    I hope this helps some and I hope others with more experience will chime in.
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    How long would it take to kill the battery or fry the coil if i left the safety switch on? (key off)

    I was told by the previos bike owner that it could happen and never to leave the switch on.
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    Nice story Grandpa



    This was true of point/coil ignitions not electronic



    There certainly is some "leakage" in the electronics plus lights etc so battery

    would go away in a while I'ld guess like 2 to 3 hours

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stromper View Post
    Nice story Grandpa



    This was true of point/coil ignitions not electronic



    There certainly is some "leakage" in the electronics plus lights etc so battery

    would go away in a while I'ld guess like 2 to 3 hours


    Ok so no worries on the coil... Or frying anything leaving the safety switch on...

    But what if the lights and ignition (key) are both off?



    Im just wondering because its the only reason I'd disable that switch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turwilliger View Post
    Ok so no worries on the coil... Or frying anything leaving the safety switch on...

    But what if the lights and ignition (key) are both off?



    Im just wondering because its the only reason I'd disable that switch


    I'm struggling to follow what you are asking. The previous owner of your bike has led you astray with regards to a dying battery being caused by safety switches.



    *Keeping or removing any of the safety switches won't do you any good as far as battery life goes, electricity is only flowing into the safety switch circuits if the key is ON.



    *If the key is ON then your headlights will also be on.



    *If you only use the kill switch to turn the bike off but leave the key on ON then walk away, you will eventually have a dead battery. But why would you walk away from a bike long enough with the key still in it and in the ON position?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmtg View Post
    I'm struggling to follow what you are asking. The previous owner of your bike has led you astray with regards to a dying battery being caused by safety switches.



    *Keeping or removing any of the safety switches won't do you any good as far as battery life goes, electricity is only flowing into the safety switch circuits if the key is ON.



    *If the key is ON then your headlights will also be on.



    *If you only use the kill switch to turn the bike off but leave the key on ON then walk away, you will eventually have a dead battery. But why would you walk away from a bike long enough with the key still in it and in the ON position?


    Ok you answered my question...

    I had been told that even if the key is off and nothing is therefore on, that leaving the safety switch on the right handle bar in the on position will drain the battery. My concern was that if i forgot to turn the safety off after removing my key, that Id come back to a dead battery.
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    No not necessarily



    I have had bikes where the ignition switch was AFTER the safety circuit



    However if it shorted it would pop the fuse



    If you don't care just connect them together



    The Previous owner must have had a mysterious battery drain.



    Charge battery disconect and see if she's fine next time youwant to

    start her.



    Dirt or corrosion at wire connector plugs can cause current leakage, clean plugs

    Possible funky component in r/r etc

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