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    Senior Member FnMag's Avatar
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    Help Guys and Gals!!!!



    I've read and read and I've tried everything that has been posted except adding a washer.



    Is there someone that can clearly explain adjusting the clutch cable correctly ?



    I've tightened and loosened the perch adjustment.

    I've done the same with the cable adjustment.

    The Spring is on correctly. Although it may be loosing it's "oomph".





    Here is what is happening...



    Shifting is smooth, no notchiness or anything, but if shifting fast to second or third I can feel it

    slipping for at least one second.



    In first, if trying to wheelie, it will lift the front wheel off the ground.

    In second, all it does is slip.

    Yes, I know this isn't good for it.

    15/47 gears.

    Oil is Moto specific Dino oil and has less than 250 miles on it.



    Do I just need to pull side cover off and tighten the springs some?

    It's been doing this since I got it but since I'm riding more often again (the Shadow)

    The TDubs clutch is annoying me more than anything.





    I have ordered new gaskets, washers & a new Torsion Spring in preparation for

    doing the washer Mod.





    THANKS !!

    Mike

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    It could be grooves worn on your clutch basket teeth, or whatever they're called. If you take off the right side crankcase cover, you'll see it. I had really bad clutch slipping problems, took the clutch basket out and filed the teeth smooth and reinstalled. That fixed the problem.
    KJ, just KJ, ok.


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    Right side being the one that the clutch cable runs too or as you are looking into the headlight right ?

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    Right side, sitting on the bike. The clutch plates are under there. They're actuated by a rod from the left side.



    I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Do I just need to pull side cover off and tighten the springs some?
    NO!!!! These bolts are EASILY overtorqued and you can twist the heads right off. Then you have to get the bolts back out of the clutch boss before you can use a new one and get it all back together. If you dont have a torque wrench and know how to use it do not attempt any clutch work. On another note. You can easily check to see if your friction plates are reaching their wear limits using a caliper; specs are in the shop manual. Same goes for the free-length of the clutch springs and warp-age of the clutch plates.



    P.S. They WILL shear off BELOW the surface. Yes, I speak from experience. I lived and learned so you dont have to.



    -sS

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    Quote Originally Posted by secretStash View Post
    NO!!!! These bolts are EASILY overtorqued and you can twist the heads right off. Then you have to get the bolts back out of the clutch boss before you can use a new one and get it all back together. If you dont have a torque wrench and know how to use it do not attempt any clutch work. On another note. You can easily check to see if your friction plates are reaching their wear limits using a caliper; specs are in the shop manual. Same goes for the free-length of the clutch springs and warp-age of the clutch plates.



    P.S. They WILL shear off BELOW the surface. Yes, I speak from experience. I lived and learned so you dont have to.



    -sS


    Very true. I did the same thing.
    If you can't find it, grind it

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    15/47 is tough on the clutch, especially in traffic and doing wheelies. Riding with a finger or two resting on the lever will also contribute to clutch slippage.



    New stock steel plates, Barnett fiber discs and springs. Problem solved practically forever.




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    Quote Originally Posted by lizrdbrth View Post
    Right side, sitting on the bike. The clutch plates are under there. They're actuated by a rod from the left side.




    What he said. The right side of the bike as when you are sitting on it. Oh and, there may (I'm sure there is...) be another way to remove the clutch basket, but I ordered the special tool from Yamaha which made the job easy.
    KJ, just KJ, ok.


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    Well I loosened everything up after taking a look at how it is on my shadow. I set the lower adjustment to where the little arrow pointed at the line. Then I adjusted it at the perch.

    Now the lever snaps back like it should and the clutch doesn't seem to slip any where near the amount it used too. I think that the cable is near time to replace it because it's pretty

    far out on the perch. May be time to break down and purchase a new cable. I may also still do the washer mod that was mentioned elsewhere.

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    Add a washer.



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