And I have my first complaint about the Shinko 244. Going slow in the nasty mud and that tire didn't shed any mud at all. Quickly built up to be a problem between the tire and fender and it was cutting it away on both forks constantly as it rolled along. Looked like an old Play-doh press. I have really never ridden in conditions like that so I can't tell you if any other tire would have done better but that sucked and there was really no traction left for steering well.