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    First oil change in the record book!

    I done the first oil change with 78 miles on it. I was not scared of the metal pieces in the screens because I read all the other post to see what to expect. I went with Mobil 1 4tr. I plan on doing it again at 150 miles and again at 200 miles then I will go the full 600 mile routine after that. Is it a good idea to keep the screens in to a certain mileage then go to the standard filter? I almost have everything done on this and when my boxes show up and I get them mounted, I will share some porn. Thank to you all for all the info you gave out to help me along!
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    Still have original screen filter at 3500 miles,
    I think a lot of folks here keep them for "Ever"
    Be careful of replacement filters as they can be wrong and cause engine failure,
    Plenty to read here about the "Wrong filter"
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    I already read those post and I thank you. I have the right filter with the 4 holes. I guess I won't need it if you still have the screen in for that long. Thanks for the reply.
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    Fist oil change in the record book!

    Good decision changing the oil at 78 miles. I changed mine at 100, 200, 300 and 500. I saw metal in all the oil changes until 500 which came out pretty clean. I also switched to Amsoil 10w- 50 on my first oil change and am very glad I did. I bought Yamaha pleated oil filter and run those instead of the stock screen. Personal choice, I'm sure either is fine. I just don't feel like cleaning the screen. I eventually switched to 10w-40 amsoil, the tw seems to like 40 better than 50. Just remember the tw doesn't hold much more than a quart of oil so change it often even you skip the filter part of it.


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    Personally I think that is overkill on the oil changes. I ride mostly on the street so that does make a difference. My first was 500 miles, then 1000, then every 3000 miles. I am about to hit 43000 miles on mine soon. I do not ride it easy. Hard starts with fast take offs and engine rapped out. I'll run it full throttle at times. I have always ridden it that way. To each his own but that many oil changes should really make it last.
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    I was always told that the cheapest insurance you can have with a vehicle or piece of machinery was oil and grease!
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    Having just taken delivery of a 2017, what exactly is the rationale for such an early oil change?

    I would not mind doing it, but over a lifetime of owning motor vehicles of all types, I've found that sticking pretty closely to the manufacturer's recommendations has held me in good stead.

    Or, to put it another way, is there a history of lubrication-related failures on TW200's where owners just followed the book recommendations?

    If not, I agree with Ken about "overkill" - modern oils should not break down after 78 miles!
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    It's pretty much just wanting to get all the metal shavings,gasket sealer,etc. out of the engine A.S.A.P.
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    As long as you can get the original filter screen clean and with no damage just keep cleaning and using it. Change intervals are purely a personal choice after the first couple dumps where you see the metal filings being dispelled. Those who do a lot of slow poke riding in a hot and dusty area should change more often than a road warrior and the color of the oil tells you more than the miles on it. This is an Air Cooled motor so the cooler it runs the longer the oil will last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B View Post
    Having just taken delivery of a 2017, what exactly is the rationale for such an early oil change?

    I would not mind doing it, but over a lifetime of owning motor vehicles of all types, I've found that sticking pretty closely to the manufacturer's recommendations has held me in good stead.

    Or, to put it another way, is there a history of lubrication-related failures on TW200's where owners just followed the book recommendations?

    If not, I agree with Ken about "overkill" - modern oils should not break down after 78 miles!
    Well, the humble TW has a habit of “barfing up” (as one of us put it) fine particles for the first 500 miles or so – some of those particles get caught by the filter, but some of the finer bits of alloy kinda turn into “liquid soup”

    Just how harmful this “soup” is, is debatable, as it’s the soft stuff, and unlikely to do any damage, but as Xracer points out, even cleaning the filter can improve flow

    In older engines, (classic cars etc), it’s sometimes unwise to use flushing oil, as the sediment will have found somewhere to settle, and disturbing it from its resting place can result in a noisier engine (or worse)

    Now – you “know” your 2017 is going to be prone to this “fine metal sludge” for the first 500 miles, and as it only takes a quart of oil, it would make sense to catch it before it settles. What happens after that is negligible, as the amount of sludge decreases dramatically

    Perhaps “over-kill”, perhaps “good practice” – your bike, your choice ……

    (And no – there are no recorded instances of engine failure by either changing this regularly or not)
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