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    Junior Member flailer's Avatar
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    Hey group,

    So I buy a couple of TW's for my rental business (www.harentals.com) and one of them has recently had the case split for a reseal. I rode the bike around for about 100 miles and seemed to shift ok, but hard to get into neutral.



    Now I invented this device that allows you to put the front tire of any MC into a "bracket" that fits into a hitch insert on a car or truck. It elivates the fron tire and allows you to tow the bike behind a rig on its back tire.



    So I tow the bike about 20 miles in neutral on its back tire, and then the tire locks up. Now I cant get the bike into any gear except 1st and when the clutch is let out, even in neural, the motor dies as the drive sprocket shaft is locked up.



    So we split the case, and find that the trany 2nd wheel gear and second pinion gear are seized on the shaft.



    So I am guessing that the lack of oil from a running engine seized the gears? Does anyone have an trany assy that is newer that they can sell? Are they a pricy bit at the dealer?



    Let me know your thoughts. I guess the worst part is that I am thinking my cool invention is a bust. It really has worked grat on my 2 cycle bike.

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    Never tow a bike with a car, without removing the chain.
    Only a fool would attempt it, and God help me, I am that fool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flailer View Post
    Hey group,

    So I buy a couple of TW's for my rental business (www.harentals.com) and one of them has recently had the case split for a reseal. I rode the bike around for about 100 miles and seemed to shift ok, but hard to get into neutral.



    Now I invented this device that allows you to put the front tire of any MC into a "bracket" that fits into a hitch insert on a car or truck. It elivates the fron tire and allows you to tow the bike behind a rig on its back tire.



    So I tow the bike about 20 miles in neutral on its back tire, and then the tire locks up. Now I cant get the bike into any gear except 1st and when the clutch is let out, even in neural, the motor dies as the drive sprocket shaft is locked up.



    So we split the case, and find that the trany 2nd wheel gear and second pinion gear are seized on the shaft.



    So I am guessing that the lack of oil from a running engine seized the gears? Does anyone have an trany assy that is newer that they can sell? Are they a pricy bit at the dealer?



    Let me know your thoughts. I guess the worst part is that I am thinking my cool invention is a bust. It really has worked grat on my 2 cycle bike.


    Here's what the manual says:




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    Quote Originally Posted by Flingwing View Post
    Here's what the manual says:



    Shift in to fifth at 25mph. That is funny!



    In reference to the tranny problem. This is what I was talking about in the "how do you haul your tw" thread. Hauling a bike with the rear tire on the ground will cause the problems unless the chain is removed. If only there were some way to lock the steering straight so we could haul it with the rear wheel up. Oh well, a trailer or hitch hauler will do the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmStateCrawler View Post
    ... If only there were some way to lock the steering straight so we could haul it with the rear wheel up...
    Straps? Something on either side attached from the bar ends (or close) to the rear rack? Just a thought...
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    Just the thought of doing this scares me. If someone needs to move a bike and is pennywise. Either go with a HF trailer like Qwerty's ($299.00) or use a regular hitch carrier for bikes like our TW's or smaller ($79.00 and up). Lots of used bike trailers out there http://www.adhuntr.c...Advanced+Search



    I guess the setup would be a must if you lived in an apartment and could not borrow something.


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    Yeah, it isn't as bad (but still bad) for a 2 stroke because it delivers oil differently. You're running a bike without the oil moving properly when you do this, so things are going to overheat and seize pretty quick. Your invention, while nothing new, has its applications, but you're limiting a few of them when you don't take the chain off. It's only good for extremely low speeds and short trips (like around the block) if you don't take the chain off.

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