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After reading about bad neighbors, people stealing, and well doing my job. I look at this world as a sad thing... There are people that think that if they do not get caught it is ok. Now I know some of it is just kids being dumb, but more often then not they do not have real consequences for their actions. After not getting some sort of sanction time and again, they end up in place like where I work. Some get the hint some do not and most are some where in the middle. Then they start seeing that oh my goodness I am not special after all and Prison sucks. This has been shown to society time after time... and yet we keep doing the same damn thing over and over. For those that say that we should not be so strict on these kids they will grow out of it... Guess what some do the rest end up in human zoo. I am getting tired of people and the same weak excuses trying to say that is not little Johnny's fault he lit the cat on fire. Do what my Dad did, make him dig ditches until he is so tired that he can't think day after day. Sorry if I am in a foul mood tonight. I can only swallow so much stupid in a day and I am venting to you folks. Hope you all have a great sleep and a perfect morning.
 

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After reading about bad neighbors, people stealing, and well doing my job. I look at this world as a sad thing... There are people that think that if they do not get caught it is ok. Now I know some of it is just kids being dumb, but more often then not they do not have real consequences for their actions. After not getting some sort of sanction time and again, they end up in place like where I work. Some get the hint some do not and most are some where in the middle. Then they start seeing that oh my goodness I am not special after all and Prison sucks. This has been shown to society time after time... and yet we keep doing the same damn thing over and over. For those that say that we should not be so strict on these kids they will grow out of it... Guess what some do the rest end up in human zoo. I am getting tired of people and the same weak excuses trying to say that is not little Johnny's fault he lit the cat on fire. Do what my Dad did, make him dig ditches until he is so tired that he can't think day after day. Sorry if I am in a foul mood tonight. I can only swallow so much stupid in a day and I am venting to you folks. Hope you all have a great sleep and a perfect morning.
I hope your day is better than yesterday! Our jobs take us to different places and I find myself on three different college campuses most days. Unfortunately, I think you have infinite job security with the way our youth are being educated. The day's of our youth believing that they control their own successes and failures are well behind us. They are being told from cradle to college that a small percentage of our society have an unfair amount of influence over their lives. As such, revolting against the perceived injustices seems more important to their daily lives than personal growth and accountability for their own decisions. It is my personal belief that because of these indoctrination centers our youth will fail to succeed to the same degree as the immigrant students from Asia and India. I am tired as hell so I apologize in advance if this is less than coherent.


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Sounds like the job you have is diminishing your faith in mankind. There are a few of us here who did the prison thing and will certainly understand where your frustration is coming from. There was a time when I always blamed it on the lack of a family structure, no father image in the picture and kids left to fend for themselves. These days I think in some districts it matters not if a father is there because a lot of them are just as tainted as the children they bring into this world. Seems like no training from a father figure is about the same as bad training from a useless POS father. It is a generational thing and it is coming on strong after a few generations of entitlements. No need to do it yourself when the government will teach you from an early age that they will do it for you.

My wife works in a business that has all sorts of beginner type jobs from $8.25 to $12.00/hr. The town has an abundance of beginners on the streets, 18-24 doing nothing but they can't fill the positions. Many in this age group have never had a real job and simply don't want one. When they do apply they can't pass the drug screening and some simply can't fill out the simple employment application. Others who do get past the first few hurdles and get hired don't last long because they have no work ethics and can't make it to work on time or call out sick in the first few weeks but they all want $15/hr. and our government thinks this is a good option. What good is free college when the kid was fast tracked through HS and is not college material? My wife has kids quit the job because they are not allowed to have their cell phones on the floor with them or they have to cover tattoos and remove facial ornaments. I am sure this is going on all over this country and we are raising a generation of idiots but the good in all of this is that those kids who do have a proper upbringing do have plenty of opportunities to excel. You happen to have picked a job that charges you with fixing stupid or dealing with it on a daily basis. I did it for 27 years and the only rewards come at the end of each month when my pension check gets deposited in my bank.

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Divide and Conquer....

This is the seed planted by the far left and by extension, the fool in the White House...blame everything on the 1% and Bush....meanwhile the sickness of Hollywood, Pop Culture, and the Media, carry water for those fools that actually promote that crap...

We have become a sick, sad, society....and I doubt if this Republic can be cured...we will go the way of the Roman and British Empires....to the dust bin of history.
 

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I think we would all be better off if we had NO faith in mankind. Yeah, I know people do good sometimes for no reason, but the vast majority of mankind is not interested in being good. It is primarily fear of punishment which holds back the floodgates. Reviewing history, it seems that nothing has changed. There is no evolution, and no devolution, just restrained badness, dare I call it evil. As I look deep into my own heart, (and I'm a really nice guy, really...) even when I am acting "good", it is more often than not some alternative motive. Like seeking approval, hoping for a return on investment, or just plain wanting to look good. That is not the same as actually "being good".

And this is where God comes into the equation. If you believe in him, and you believe he is good, and you believe you will be called into account for your actions, either now or for eternity; that is a tremendous restraining influence.

PS. What about the evil done in God's name, or because of religion? Because the question will be asked... To ask that question, one must also ask what about all the good done in God's name, and what about all the evil that came out of secular humanistic thought, ie. Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot.
 

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Don't give in... or give up..

I think we would all be better off if we had NO faith in mankind. Yeah, I know people do good sometimes for no reason, but the vast majority of mankind is not interested in being good. It is primarily fear of punishment which holds back the floodgates. Reviewing history, it seems that nothing has changed. There is no evolution, and no devolution, just restrained badness, dare I call it evil. As I look deep into my own heart, (and I'm a really nice guy, really...) even when I am acting "good", it is more often than not some alternative motive. Like seeking approval, hoping for a return on investment, or just plain wanting to look good. That is not the same as actually "being good".

And this is where God comes into the equation. If you believe in him, and you believe he is good, and you believe you will be called into account for your actions, either now or for eternity; that is a tremendous restraining influence.

PS. What about the evil done in God's name, or because of religion? Because the question will be asked... To ask that question, one must also ask what about all the good done in God's name, and what about all the evil that came out of secular humanistic thought, ie. Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot.
 

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Only when the pacifists are deleted we will not change. Accountability has to be reinstated for each and every person. Time to bring back some serious time for thieves, drug pushers, and the like. The welfare system is broke and what the average hard worker can't afford to keep feeding them with his paycheck. I think anyone on welfare should have to take a drug test each month to get paid.

Too many special self interest groups that control the direction of the masses. Such as no God in school, no pledge of allegiance, we are slowly becoming just another flock of sheep. Wish I had the answer to turn this country around.

We have to be the laughing stock of the world with what we have for choices to head this country in the next 4 yrs, it is a sham. One has no experience in politics, the other a criminal as far as I am concerned. Imagine having her as your commander in chief when you need reinforcements for help, remember Bengazi? Having her in testimony slamming her fists on the table and saying, What does it matter now? It sure matters to the wives and children that lost they're husbands and dads.
 

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We have to be the laughing stock of the world with what we have for choices to head this country in the next 4 yrs, it is a sham.
PURPLE... you're up!
 

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Is the glass half full or half empty? It seems we all want to believe that most of mankind is good until proven otherwise. This is in our trusting nature. The job logan has is teaching him the other side, man is bad until he proves otherwise. How you go through your life and how you perceive mans goodness is up to you. I can't automatically trust anyone I meet but I did work in a very negative environment for most of my life and with generally bad men. I envy those who are more trusting but I do feel they are wrong for the most part and will pay some price along the way. I would love to think that God and religion plays a part in all of this but since most of us don't wear God on our sleeves and many more who claim to be Godly are only kidding themselves I find too much false hope in it. As a very sad example today, there is a jumbo airliner blown out of the sky in the middle east and likely to be terror. These terrorists honestly believe they are doing Gods work. Their God and mine are very different.

Working in a prison setting takes a special mindset and will absolutely harden most who go there. Learning how to deal with this hardening so it is not so outwardly apparent is a trick and I have never mastered it.

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Well put!

Is the glass half full or half empty? It seems we all want to believe that most of mankind is good until proven otherwise. This is in our trusting nature. The job logan has is teaching him the other side, man is bad until he proves otherwise. How you go through your life and how you perceive mans goodness is up to you. I can't automatically trust anyone I meet but I did work in a very negative environment for most of my life and with generally bad men. I envy those who are more trusting but I do feel they are wrong for the most part and will pay some price along the way. I would love to think that God and religion plays a part in all of this but since most of us don't wear God on our sleeves and many more who claim to be Godly are only kidding themselves I find too much false hope in it. As a very sad example today, there is a jumbo airliner blown out of the sky in the middle east and likely to be terror. These terrorists honestly believe they are doing Gods work. Their God and mine are very different.

Working in a prison setting takes a special mindset and will absolutely harden most who go there. Learning how to deal with this hardening so it is not so outwardly apparent is a trick and I have never mastered it.

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Whats real sad is a lot of school teachers are feeling the same way. They also are left with no tools to deal with it. My wife has been cussed out and spit on by students and there is nothing she can do about it that's legal.
All the rules can be broken and nothing will happen to the student doing them. Send them home? Sure!.......Send me home so I can Fu*k off with my friends.......What do I have to do to get a week?
 

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Well, we may all want to think people are good, like we want to think the politician isn't lying, but wanting ain't the same as being.

As for God, well, either He is or He isn't. As for His nature or personality, I never understand why people think we get to define that. Not saying you are doing that, but if he is real, I get to define who he is and what he is like as much as I get to define who you are and what you are like. Sure I can describe you correctly or misrepresent you, but my reference is not the truth that is YOU. Silly post modern thinking is just that a silly delusion.
 

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As for rules, we're relativists these days. We get to define things how we see fit and that is OK. Seriously? It's like the bathroom squabble. I mean, if you have the male equipment, an XY chromosome, but feel like a woman, well, you're still a man. But somehow it is logical that we accept that. Good grief.
 

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Well, we may all want to think people are good, like we want to think the politician isn't lying, but wanting ain't the same as being.

As for God, well, either He is or He isn't. As for His nature or personality, I never understand why people think we get to define that. Not saying you are doing that, but if he is real, I get to define who he is and what he is like as much as I get to define who you are and what you are like. Sure I can describe you correctly or misrepresent you, but my reference is not the truth that is YOU. Silly post modern thinking is just that a silly delusion.
I'm going with the ancient alien theory.. WE are the aliens.. :)
 

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Hey folks... I do want to thank everybody for their support... Gary thanks for knowing what I was talking about and what brought it out. This month is just silly with all the going on that I have dealing with and it came to a head. Some one mentioned people have to be scared of authority to respect authority. Well yesterday I had to make the inmates remember that I am the unit sergeant and that I will go to great length to exercise the application of said authority. Most of the inmates were being good, but right now my Unit is near the capacity of the building which feeds into the stupid. I have an increasing level of mental health inmates as my unit is set up for it. Normally it doesn't bother me but it has been building up along with a federal audit. And dealing with special projects from one of the Captains. Anyways you guys are a blessing. Thanks,
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Hey folks... I do want to thank everybody for their support... Gary thanks for knowing what I was talking about and what brought it out. This month is just silly with all the going on that I have dealing with and it came to a head. Some one mentioned people have to be scared of authority to respect authority. Well yesterday I had to make the inmates remember that I am the unit sergeant and that I will go to great length to exercise the application of said authority. Most of the inmates were being good, but right now my Unit is near the capacity of the building which feeds into the stupid. I have an increasing level of mental health inmates as my unit is set up for it. Normally it doesn't bother me but it has been building up along with a federal audit. And dealing with special projects from one of the Captains. Anyways you guys are a blessing. Thanks,
Gabe
Hang in there Gabe because I know the pain you are going through. Most times I had more trouble from the staff, Captains, Officers and the higher ups than I ever did with the inmates. All the fools in those state office buildings who would not last a day in the jail making the rules they have no clue how to enforce. Federal Audits, Commission of Corrections and the mandated certifications drove me batshit crazy. Out on the range, I was the WTO, and I had to account for every stinking bullet fired and un-fired every day. I spent more time counting stupid crap than teaching valuable lessons. Most of the facilities I worked were well over maximum capacity of criminals and well under staffing levels to save money so they could hire a few more 6 figure idiots in Albany who did nothing but make my job harder. Welcome to government service. I have been retired now for 16 years and honestly can't imagine how much worse things have become. Hope this might put a small smile on your face. I just turned 64 and retired at 48 after 27 years with a nice pension. How many guys can do that????

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I will wait until I am 60ish. So that means another 21 years or so. I am good now. A good nights sleep, a nice chat with the wife before she left for work. Now I am going to go do some physical labor in the garden, which is good for the soul. I just had to deal with a special kind of stupid yesterday. I popped. It happens as you know. So now that I have thrown some chow down my gullet I feel good and ready for another helping of stupid today!
 
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