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Starts next week, June 4 thru 9. Lake George, NY

https://americade.com

I'll be up with friends on Fri, Sat & Sun. If anyone here is attending and wants to hook-up PM me. I'm staying at a house in Great Lake Sacandaga but will head to Lake George at least one of the days.
 

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Be sure to check out Dird Daze, the dirty side of Americade.
Ha, I'm doing one of the DirtDaze rides based on your recommendation.
Friday will be on street bikes to Old Forge and Saturday I'm doing one of the 3 dirt/trail rides out of the Painted Pony Ranch in Lake Luzerne. Probably the one that bounces back-and forth from New York & Vermont, "The Lake George Lap".
Funny thing about their website descriptions of rides "most bikes are 600cc and the trails are a challenge though it's no problem to do 2-up riding".
What? 2-Up riding??? It'll be interesting to see what these rides are going to be. Besides, it's supposed to rain on Saturday so that pretty much fits in with any of-roading I've done so far.
 

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My mom, her boyfriend and I were able to get to Americade this year. For the first time we trailered the bikes up - mostly because I was on my little 300 and didn't feel like getting the snot beat out of me on the 2 day drive up. We got up there super late Sunday night, were disappointed to discover Monday the 4th was a useless set-up day for the merchants. It was raining, but it would have been nice to be able to wander through the merchants tents since we weren't going to ride. Tuesday it was still rainy, so we did our first bit of shopping. I was a little disappointed by the lack of variety. There was some cool stuff, and I was able to pick up a pad for the X300's brick of a seat, so it wasn't a total loss, but for such a large event I was surprised by how standard most merchants were. Wednesday we went on one of the rides - this one up to an artist center for lunch. The ride was ... interesting. The art center was beautiful and the food great, but after eating the 1 1/2 hour trip back could have had at least one stop for a bathroom break. Thursday we went for a little ride and ended up at Dirt Dayz. I was able to get my X300 on the beginner track and it kicked by ass. I really need to get familiar with that bike before taking it off-road. Later that evening we rode down to Albany to eat supper with relatives. Friday was a late start. We picked up last-minute items at the merchants area (Mom got a taller windshield for her Spyder and Dave got a Condor motorcycle stand), then went for a little ride outside Lake George to avoid the growing crowd. Friday night we went to the raffle event and watched the fireworks. Then Saturday we packed up the bikes and came home.

I don't know that I'll go to another big rally like Americade / Laconia / Myrtle Beach / Daytona again. I really don't enjoy the crowds and associated dangerous traffic that the events bring in. I saw more dangerous riding Thursday and Friday than I'd seen all year as guys tried to outdo each other, beat traffic, ignore local traffic laws, and generally be a PITA on 2 wheels. The bigger the pack, the worse they were. Their style of riding was a perfect example of why bikers get bad names.

If I head north again, I want to go for pure recreational riding. The area up there is absolutely gorgeous and the back roads are interesting. If anyone gets a chance to ride upstate NY, go. Just bring bug spray!
 

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Americade --- "Dirt Daze"

So, never did make it to the main Americade in Lake George. But that's no big deal because other than riding through Lake George and maybe stopping for lunch it's really too crowded. You could sit there on the side of main street and probably see at least one accident every hour, idiots burning-out of showing off.
I "say" I'm going to Americade but I really go up to ride with a bunch of friends.

Anyway, this year time became a factor because work ended up taking one of my 3 days of riding away. I arrived at my friend Bob's in Great Lake Sacandaga (going forward known as GLS) around 4:00am and as planned did an early group ride to Old Forge, NY a few hours later in the morning.

6 big Harley's, a Yamaha fz9 and Bob and I in my Jeep (top down of course). Bob does not ride but can't leave our host home. Beautiful ride/drive through the rolling hills and scenery of the Adirondack Mountains. Couple hundred miles with a bunch of stops along the way.

Next day Luis (xt250) and I (TDub) got up at 5:30am and hit the rode by 6:30 to get to the "Dirt Daze" staging area in Lake Luzerne, about 23 miles northeast. Riding along GLS and the altitude you gain as you finally reach it's end is one of those breathtaking rides that affirms why you ride a motorcycle in the first place. So early there were no cars, no other bikes, no people. Just winding flat and smooth roads. Wanted to share that.

Got to “Dirt Daze” and found my big mistake was not pre-registering. All the guided rides were completely booked. I asked about tagging along behind the Sweep guys but for liability and safety's sake we were told no. There were several self-guided tours and we met a local that said we could join him and his group. Problem was his group had not shown up yet after a night of alcoholic celebrating so he was going back to his campsite to sleep for a few hours, said he’s meet us at 10:00am.

Apparently a few riders for a tour called “The Oasis” did not show up so Luis and I took their spots. Our group was very large, 22 riders. Apparently all the DD Guides were having trouble downloading the route sheets and only Victoria, our Lead Guide had it on her GPS having done this particular tour 3-4 times this week. So they combined a few groups and we ended up having 5 guides altogether.

Short video below starting with arrival, highlights from Victoria’s Ride Safety Check-out speech (there was a tragic fatality at last years event), the pavement part of the ride which ironically had us traveling back to GLS, heading off pavement to some great logging and Jeep roads, a ride up a really challenging hill (not everyone did this), visiting an old Indian Cave which I suspect was actually a hiding place for a “still”, lunch at a Ski Slope in Speculator, NY, some more dirt and then a ride back on the other side of GLS.

It was a great ride, we were in good company lead by Victoria and her team: Jesse, Brian, Gary & Matt. I have been so used to being knocked-around/beaten-up lately by the weather and conditions (GreenRidge Run/West Virginia and Jersey Devil Hunt/NJ Pine Barrens) that this was a very, very enjoyable and easy ride with the exception of “The Hill”.

We did 200 miles that day and I’d say 40 of them were off-pavement. Just a nice mix of touring, scenery and dirt to satisfy anybody. It’ll be a destination for me next year.

Enjoy:

 

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With all those riders bet it was nice to have some soil moisture keeping trail dust managable. Looks like a nice dual sport outing.
 

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Wow, the difference in leadership style between the Dirt Dayz and Americade tours is amazing. I would much rather have been on your ride than the one I did. The Dirt Dayz instructions to ensure you can still see the people behind you seems like common sense, but was 180 degrees opposite from the instructions the Americade leaders gave us! And I'm glad I ignored them because we had a first-year rider hit some gravel and go down behind us. Luckily he was okay except for a broken turn signal, shaky nerves and bruised ego.

And the info about suicidal wildlife was spot on - I struck a deer with the truck on the way up (thank heavens for Ram's steel bumpers!), and had another deer jump across the road, narrowly missing 3 riders (2 just ahead of me and 1 coming from the opposite direction)! The Adirondacks are beautiful, but definitely wild.

It's heartbreaking to hear about the fatality! All the more reason the Dirt Dayz instructions make a ton more sense than 'every man for himself' style instructions provided by the Americade crew.
 

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Thanks for posting that video Stagewex, that looked like a fun ride. I'm thinking that a trip up for this next year just might be happening.
Interesting that in the part where you stopped for something to eat, everyone seemed to just sit at separate tables. Guess that shows the individual nature of most motorcyclists.
 

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Thanks for posting that video Stagewex, that looked like a fun ride. I'm thinking that a trip up for this next year just might be happening.
Interesting that in the part where you stopped for something to eat, everyone seemed to just sit at separate tables. Guess that shows the individual nature of most motorcyclists.
It was a ski lodge/ski chalet that is usually not open during the Summer months so all the tables were kinda individual and separate. They were glad to have the Dirt Daze and also Americade business as there was another tour going thru the area. Two of the guides joined us after our rescue of their sweep guide. As everyone knows anything can happen at anytime on one of these off-road ventures. Doesn't matter how much or little experience you have or think you have for that matter.

We have exchanged contact information with a lot of others on this ride... folks from as far up as Maine and as south as Georgia. We really lucked-out that we were included on this trip. And Victoria our main guide, she had a website called "get out and ride" (I think) and my buddy has already signed up for one of her very limited group rides. I'll find that site and post it. They mostly keep to CT, NY & Mass.
Did I mention she rides a "carbie" xt250? She knows bigger is not always better.
 

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Hey Mike,

Just caught this thread, nice!

You're always the guy helping others too, every time a Good Samaritan! :)

Cant wait to ride with you and Luis again. I put close to 180 miles in the pines today, rode through all three state forests. Would have been nice to have you all here, Rick included. I was down in Maryland riding Green Ridge when you were at this place or I would have tried to make it. Keep in touch pal ;)

Scott



So, never did make it to the main Americade in Lake George. But that's no big deal because other than riding through Lake George and maybe stopping for lunch it's really too crowded. You could sit there on the side of main street and probably see at least one accident every hour, idiots burning-out of showing off.
I "say" I'm going to Americade but I really go up to ride with a bunch of friends.

Anyway, this year time became a factor because work ended up taking one of my 3 days of riding away. I arrived at my friend Bob's in Great Lake Sacandaga (going forward known as GLS) around 4:00am and as planned did an early group ride to Old Forge, NY a few hours later in the morning.

6 big Harley's, a Yamaha fz9 and Bob and I in my Jeep (top down of course). Bob does not ride but can't leave our host home. Beautiful ride/drive through the rolling hills and scenery of the Adirondack Mountains. Couple hundred miles with a bunch of stops along the way.

Next day Luis (xt250) and I (TDub) got up at 5:30am and hit the rode by 6:30 to get to the "Dirt Daze" staging area in Lake Luzerne, about 23 miles northeast. Riding along GLS and the altitude you gain as you finally reach it's end is one of those breathtaking rides that affirms why you ride a motorcycle in the first place. So early there were no cars, no other bikes, no people. Just winding flat and smooth roads. Wanted to share that.

Got to “Dirt Daze” and found my big mistake was not pre-registering. All the guided rides were completely booked. I asked about tagging along behind the Sweep guys but for liability and safety's sake we were told no. There were several self-guided tours and we met a local that said we could join him and his group. Problem was his group had not shown up yet after a night of alcoholic celebrating so he was going back to his campsite to sleep for a few hours, said he’s meet us at 10:00am.

Apparently a few riders for a tour called “The Oasis” did not show up so Luis and I took their spots. Our group was very large, 22 riders. Apparently all the DD Guides were having trouble downloading the route sheets and only Victoria, our Lead Guide had it on her GPS having done this particular tour 3-4 times this week. So they combined a few groups and we ended up having 5 guides altogether.

Short video below starting with arrival, highlights from Victoria’s Ride Safety Check-out speech (there was a tragic fatality at last years event), the pavement part of the ride which ironically had us traveling back to GLS, heading off pavement to some great logging and Jeep roads, a ride up a really challenging hill (not everyone did this), visiting an old Indian Cave which I suspect was actually a hiding place for a “still”, lunch at a Ski Slope in Speculator, NY, some more dirt and then a ride back on the other side of GLS.

It was a great ride, we were in good company lead by Victoria and her team: Jesse, Brian, Gary & Matt. I have been so used to being knocked-around/beaten-up lately by the weather and conditions (GreenRidge Run/West Virginia and Jersey Devil Hunt/NJ Pine Barrens) that this was a very, very enjoyable and easy ride with the exception of “The Hill”.

We did 200 miles that day and I’d say 40 of them were off-pavement. Just a nice mix of touring, scenery and dirt to satisfy anybody. It’ll be a destination for me next year.

Enjoy:

 

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That’s a beautiful area Mike and your videos are always a pleasure to watch. Hope we get a chance to ride again soon.
 

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I am jealous of his editing skills.

We ride all over the area Stagewex mentioned damned near every Sunday.

The wildlife can be unpredictable, but the curves sure are fun.

My friend works for the NYS DOT and seems to know every curve in NY and the surrounding states. We even wound up in PA for lunch one day.
Suzy always asks me where we went. I just tell her, "I followed the red bike."
 

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Yes, same for me Smitty, "I follow the Red Bike". That guy is amazing.

Scotty, if you can swing it I was looking at going to at least one (1) day/the first day of the AHRMA Vintage Motorcycle Festival on Friday, July 13th.
That is only 30 miles as-the-crow-flies from Turtle Cove Campground in Egg Harbor City so thought a full day of riding the Pines on Thursday the 12th, camp-out that night (Dinner at Allen's Clam Bar) and then head over to NJ Motorsports Park in Millville, NJ the next day. Of course you can just do the ride on the 12th. We will be hopelessly lost without you and your GPS routes and your expertise in the thousands of acres of the Pines.

If you can ride the 12th that would be great and I'll post it as a real ride. I know Luis is going to be able to ride and I have another convert to common-sense low displacement dual-sporting as well, Chris with his 2007 xt225. Let me know and we'll throw something together here on the forum. Right now my work schedule is clear enough that I can take off.
 

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I missed this post till now. I had never been to Americade, but I have been to Laconia few times...cant imagine Americade being worse, haha. I've been to a lot of big events, I just don't ride much when I am there. you should hear the story of a certain BMW rally in NY and our NY Thru way ride to a winery
 
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