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I have been pondering this observation for a few days now. I want to see if I am crazy or if I am somewhat observant. Let me set the stage:

1. I have only been a member of this forum since January 2015.
2. I have not read every current post on this forum let alone all of the historical posts.
3. I check the forum daily and read posts that peak my curiosity or post that involve a technical issue that i want to learn about.
4. I try to only post replies when i have something useful to say. I will pass out likes all day long with out posting a reply.

Here is my observation: In my year and a half on this forum, I never saw any topics (censorship, hurt feelings, you can't say that, etc.) or forum issues that members openly complained about until the new forum owners took over. I am in left field with this?:confused:

Please advise.
 

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I have been pondering this observation for a few days now. I want to see if I am crazy or if I am somewhat observant. Let me set the stage:

1. I have only been a member of this forum since January 2015.
2. I have not read every current post on this forum let alone all of the historical posts.
3. I check the forum daily and read posts that peak my curiosity or post that involve a technical issue that i want to learn about.
4. I try to only post replies when i have something useful to say. I will pass out likes all day long with out posting a reply.

Here is my observation: In my year and a half on this forum, I never saw any topics (censorship, hurt feelings, you can't say that, etc.) or forum issues that members openly complained about until the new forum owners took over. I am in left field with this?:confused:

Please advise.
Same here...
 

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It is still Ok. Just ignore the BS. The old admins banned and censored posts in the past. You know they did.

I think ALL forums need an "off-topic" area. I just don't need to visit them.

Facebook is not the answer. I am surprised recent defectors have "pitched their tent" there. FB is NOT the place for our type of technical camaraderie. That's all.
 

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No...its been going on longer than that. You missed the Lizardbrth years where it was all happy...:(
This. There's been a bit of crap here, intermittently, over the last couple of years. Some unseen while I was a moderator, which I am no longer thanks to one member, so you're seeing it all in full glory now. I predict the worst is yet to come...
 

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Forums have their ups and downs, it's what people do. Get along, argue, get over it, repeat. Some get upset and leave, some loose interest, new people join, and this will keep happening as long as there is a forum. Doesn't matter who owns it.
 

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Oh there have been times when I was sad to say I was a member, but threads were deleted, replies were removed, people left and things got better.
Here is my observation, there are and always will be people that must stir it up and when something is said they go on a hissy fit. This is first and foremost the best motorcycle forum for one of the best bikes ever made ( however this is only my opinion ). So with that in mind the only way to keep it that way is to remain centered on the TW and 75% should always be about these machines. Once we cross the line to where it was 75% non TW and basic crap the problems arised. The new owners just happen to take over as there was once again unrest in the membership. The owners are new to this forum but not to the world of forums in general, so they just took matters into their own hands and dealt with it in a fashion some didnt like. For me this forum is all about my bike and where it takes me and also where other members bikes take them, how we over come its short comings and weak points. I dont care about your politics, your world view, or anything else you want to argue about, but tell me how high you climbed that mountain or how deep the stream was you crossed and you will have my attention.

I am glad Color of the Day that you never witnessed the dark side of the membership but it did show before the new owners and there were a lot of hurt feelings and more. But that is all behind and buried and put were it should be. There are alot of good people here still and a lot of members world wide who lerk and read but never enter in to the conversations, hopefully with time they will feel more inclined to do so as this is not just a USA political forum. I get the free speach, I get the "my way is the right way", but I dont understand the attacks and mean spirited posts. I hope those people understand that it just isnt acceptable to act that way on a public forum and all this talk of a "basement"? I have search all over this forum and there are no stairs heading down to a basement period.... so we are in rancher...slab on grade constructed forum with many rooms but all on the same level. If some here believe there is a basement then they have dug that hole on their own.

I say we give the new owners a chance and if we all play nice and just get along the TW world will be a better place!

One more thought.... one day they will stop making these cool little bikes and that will drive the price up, way up....and we will all be millionaires soon!!!!
 

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You're all making a mistake in blaming this on new ownership. I've had almost no interaction with them since the sale, and I was here for a while with the previous owners. I've taken the actions that have been taken. The new owners haven't said anything to me about it one way or the other. Why have I done this? Because I've seen this place turn from a friendly, helpful and informative site into one that devotes a lot of time and bandwidth to anger, rage, hate, conspiracy theories, finger-pointing.....and every other trait that destroys humanity in us all. In the 10 years I've been involved with forum moderation or as admin, I've not once....NOT. ONCE....seen a forum community survive after being taken over by those forces. As others have said, there are other forums that cater to that kind of thing, and I'll gladly provide any of you a link to one that I used to be affiliated with under the old owners. It's the same link I provided to Hoot. I'd rather see that kind of stuff over there, and this place return to the happIER site that it used to be. I think there are many, quieter, members here that agree with me. It's always the very loud minority of members that screw things up for the majority, who don't want to come here for more strife. There's already enough of that out there.

The former owners were all about family friendly forums for enthusiasts of whichever device, machine, sport, pet....whatever the focus of the forum was. I expect that the new owners intend the same, though I haven't yet seen anything which says that. What's been going on in here, both politically, AND among certain members and other members.....it's not the stuff solid foundations are made of. Far from it. I'm just trying to get everyone on the same page here....The same people that are spending energy here decrying the growing fractiousness of our society, are the same ones who are creating more of it here.

I will say that I know the new owner's team (my new colleagues) are reading here. They know what's going on. And if they had a major problem with the direction I'm trying to steer, they'd speak up...whether to me, or in public. They haven't. But they haven't "ordered a cleanup". Stop blaming Canada. Blame the fact that this isn't a political forum, and it shouldn't be. This section was opened by request of the members. I suspect many regret that, if they read anything in here at all. It's turned into something I don't believe it was ever meant to be.
 

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No...its been going on longer than that. You missed the Lizardbrth years where it was all happy...:(
I concur with Agman.

Here is a quote from Lizrdbrth that I believe would sum up his feelings on the trend that this forum has taken recently - "We've never played that way 'round here and I'm outta here the minute this place even begins to smell like a lot of other places on the 'net."
 

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You're all making a mistake in blaming this on new ownership. I've had almost no interaction with them since the sale, and I was here for a while with the previous owners. I've taken the actions that have been taken. The new owners haven't said anything to me about it one way or the other. Why have I done this? Because I've seen this place turn from a friendly, helpful and informative site into one that devotes a lot of time and bandwidth to anger, rage, hate, conspiracy theories, finger-pointing.....and every other trait that destroys humanity in us all. In the 10 years I've been involved with forum moderation or as admin, I've not once....NOT. ONCE....seen a forum community survive after being taken over by those forces. As others have said, there are other forums that cater to that kind of thing, and I'll gladly provide any of you a link to one that I used to be affiliated with under the old owners. It's the same link I provided to Hoot. I'd rather see that kind of stuff over there, and this place return to the happIER site that it used to be. I think there are many, quieter, members here that agree with me. It's always the very loud minority of members that screw things up for the majority, who don't want to come here for more strife. There's already enough of that out there.

The former owners were all about family friendly forums for enthusiasts of whichever device, machine, sport, pet....whatever the focus of the forum was. I expect that the new owners intend the same, though I haven't yet seen anything which says that. What's been going on in here, both politically, AND among certain members and other members.....it's not the stuff solid foundations are made of. Far from it. I'm just trying to get everyone on the same page here....The same people that are spending energy here decrying the growing fractiousness of our society, are the same ones who are creating more of it here.

I will say that I know the new owner's team (my new colleagues) are reading here. They know what's going on. And if they had a major problem with the direction I'm trying to steer, they'd speak up...whether to me, or in public. They haven't. But they haven't "ordered a cleanup". Stop blaming Canada. Blame the fact that this isn't a political forum, and it shouldn't be. This section was opened by request of the members. I suspect many regret that, if they read anything in here at all. It's turned into something I don't believe it was ever meant to be.
Thankfully, I think everyone understands now and my job just got a whole lot easier. Thank you to everyone on the forum for that!! :)
 

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Purple, what have you gone and done?:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
 

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That's the funniest thing I've seen in years!!!! I was rolling on the floor laughing!!!! I had no idea you could do that with those things!!!


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