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So I made a post about an injury I suffered several weeks ago - maybe two or three months. Today I had a little get-off at around 15 or 20 mph: basically I slid in the clay-mud and then sort of high-sided down a hill (not steep). That injury had been healed up - or so I thought at least - for probably at least a full month, maybe two. Today's spill yielded the exact same injury, in the same place, with the same exact pain and symptoms. Last time, I talked to a couple medical personnel, outside a hospital setting; they quieted my fears that it might have been a minor pneumothorax.

I went to the emergency room this time (MediCal for the win, lol...) and explained my symptoms. I never mentioned anything about my lungs to the lady at the front desk, just explained what had happened and how it was feeling: pain on inhalation, or when moving certain ways. She called back and said something like "I've got a patient who had a dirt bike crash, I'd like to get him back ASAP; I'm concerned about a possible 'pneumo'." I asked if she had been referring to a pneumothorax, and she confirmed that that was what she was talking about. The doctor determined that that was not the case. I got some X-rays and they didn't show any obvious bone fractures. I specifically asked if I could have a fracture that wasn't discernable in the X-rays, and the doc did confirm that that was possible. They basically don't know what the hell is actually wrong with me. It may be a muscle tissue tear or intercostal muscle sprain. I guess there are lots of things it could be based on symptoms; I just wish the hospital could tell me exactly what's up. I know they aren't magicians, though...

I'm concerned because the injury is pretty much exactly the same as the one I had recently, which, again, I thought had healed up completely by several weeks ago. But I guess there's really nothing I can do but sit on my ass for another eight weeks and wait for it to heal up again. I'm starting to fear that this will turn into a long term recurring problem. Every time I have a little spill, I'll tear this muscle, or whatever the hell it is. I get a sharp, localized pain just from lifting my head up a couple of inches, while lying on my back, and every time I inhale deeply or move in certain ways. This is pretty frustrating for me, as I've been riding enduro stuff every weekend, and I've just started to make some real progress with my workouts...
 

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Sorry to hear this. Maybe a bit longer wait time before riding will allow a more permanent recovery?


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Sorry to hear this. Maybe a bit longer wait time before riding will allow a more permanent recovery?


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Yea, maybe I'll have to just suck it up and give it a full 8 weeks before riding or working out again. I hate that, but you might have a point. I think I started riding again after like 5 weeks last time, although I did take it easy for a week or two after that.
 

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You have broken a part. Is it covered under the warrenty?

Yea, I just spoke with the maker, and he's agreed to replace me under warranty ;D Haha.

Funny you should mention a broken part...my brother pointed out to me today that the frame on my DR200 is missing a bolt for one of the bars going under the engine. Will have to get that sorted out before riding it again! Not like I don't have plenty of time to do that, now :( That old Suzuki just amazes me though. The things I put it through... and yet it just keeps on tractoring along!
 

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Sorry to hear this KJ. I hope you feel better soon.

Ever think about getting one of those old man geezer bikes? The Yamaha TW 200 and slowing down in life a bit?

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Ever think about...slowing down in life a bit?

:hiding:

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No.

Hehe.


It's funny, I used to be among perhaps the slowest ten percent of off road riders. I was always the guy in the back during off road group rides. Over the years, I have gotten a heck of a lot faster, without even realizing it. Until recently, I hadn't really noticed. During the past several months, I've been a lot more active with off road riding, and ridden with a lot of people...in so doing, I've discovered I'm usually mid-pack, at worst, and up front quite a bit. It's kind of nice, since I got so used to always playing catch up; now I'm usually waiting for those guys instead haha. At least I can take some comfort in the fact that even the best off road racers in the world have an injury crash now and again. Were I at that level, I'd probably just ride through this "little bruise"...
 

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Wishing you a speedy full recovery KJ. While not likely appropriate in your case I once had a fracture that X-rays did not reveal to first doctor. 6 weeks later a MRI revealed the break, at which point a second opinion by a second doctor with 20/20 hindsight claimed he could see the fracture in the original X-rays. Pays to get a second opinion or alternate imaging at times. Hopefully after recovery you will regain all the skills and speed you have acquired recently. Good luck and good health to you.:)
 

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Okay, I have to ask... what kind of gear were you wearing???

I've had several get-offs of my own and never had anything worse than a swollen elbow... likely due to my Fox Titan armored jacket... one of those crashes is one where I went over the bars, landed on my back and started sliding down a steep hill only to stop myself by grabbing a tree branch.
 

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Wishing you a speedy full recovery KJ. While not likely appropriate in your case I once had a fracture that X-rays did not reveal to first doctor. 6 weeks later a MRI revealed the break, at which point a second opinion by a second doctor with 20/20 hindsight claimed he could see the fracture in the original X-rays. Pays to get a second opinion or alternate imaging at times. Hopefully after recovery you will regain all the skills and speed you have acquired recently. Good luck and good health to you.:)
Thanks, Fred! I do think there is a possibility that they just couldn't discern the fracture in the X-Rays. That's what I hate about all this - the uncertainty about the whole thing. I don't know a heart attack from a bruised rib, you know...I mean literally...haha. Honestly if the feeling of the pain were the only consequence, I'd definitely say screw it and just ride anyway. It's not bad most of the time, averages maybe 4/10. The message the pain may be communicating is what always bothers me. Also, maybe it's all in my head, but this one seems to be healing faster than last time (feels like it's improving already, two days later...). Maybe it wasn't as bad this time, or something. I don't know - sigh...
 

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Okay, I have to ask... what kind of gear were you wearing???

I've had several get-offs of my own and never had anything worse than a swollen elbow... likely due to my Fox Titan armored jacket... one of those crashes is one where I went over the bars, landed on my back and started sliding down a steep hill only to stop myself by grabbing a tree branch.
On this occasion I was wearing my MX boots, spine/chest protector piece, street bike jacket (a little cold) - which has CE approved, contoured padding in the elbow and shoulder areas - neck brace, dirt bike helmet, and dirt bike gloves. I usually wear knee guards, but mine have worn to the point of being unusable. I'll definitely have a new pair before I get back to riding. The injury isn't external at all. There's no discernable bruising on the surface, on the outside of the ribs or anything. I believe it is most likely a light intercostal muscle sprain, although there are of course several other possibilities. IIRC, I landed mostly on my left shoulder, which may have been twisted a little as I impacted the ground, thus pulling on that muscle and tweaking it in just the wrong way. I could be totally full of it, though, lol. I'm no doctor; I just read things! Then again, I guess that's all doctors really do...
 
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UPDATE: Sneezing hurts, on account of this injury. Realizing this/thinking about it prompted me to do a little more research. I pretty much meet all of the symptoms for Intercostal Nuralgia (although symptoms have definitely lessened significantly since the day of the injury). I think this could be it: I have been thinking that the pain feels like a pinched nerve - quite similar to lower back pain that I used to experience fairly frequently (virtually nonexistent for several years thanks to regular core-strength exercise).

Intercostal Neuralgia - Symptoms
 

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Go to the doctor! :)

And it's time you sold the bikes and got something safer... like a Minivan. ;)
I went on the day it happened (this time). They weren't a whole lot of use, other than the doctor recommending reasonable things to do (take it easy, listen to your body, all that sort of common-sense stuff...). One of the nurses did give me some of the old "maybe it's time to give up motorcycles" spiel - needless to say, I wasn't buying it. I've been there/done that. I'm sticking with motorcycles for life, now, and that's that. They didn't see any fractures in the X-Rays. Anyway, the doctor DID add intercostal to my vocabulary, which helped me in researching my symptoms and finding the intercostal neuralgia articles. Oh and, she was unbelievably hot, so I wasn't complaining while she felt me up as part of diagnosis, lmao. So there's that. I seem to be recovering rapidly. Another week or so and I think it's going to be really tough for me to justify continued inactivity.
 
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I went on the day it happened (this time). They weren't a whole lot of use, other than the doctor recommending reasonable things to do (take it easy, listen to your body, all that sort of common-sense stuff...). One of the nurses did give me some of the old "maybe it's time to give up motorcycles" spiel - needless to say, I wasn't buying it. I've been there/done that. I'm sticking with motorcycles for life, now, and that's that. They didn't see any fractures in the X-Rays. Anyway, the doctor DID add intercostal to my vocabulary, which helped me in researching my symptoms and finding the intercostal neuralgia articles. Oh and, she was unbelievably hot, lol, so I wasn't complaining while she felt me up as part of diagnosis, lmao. So there's that. I seem to be recovering rapidly. Another week or so and I think it's going to be really tough to justify continued inactivity to myself.
When you think you are good to go, add two more weeks. Seriously


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Oh right, I remember you saying that now. Sorry. :)

Well FWIW, Chrysler is going to put the Hellcat motor (707 hp) in the Pacifica Minivan, so when you sell all your bikes, you can get one of those. ;)
 

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I think KJ should keep getting himself examined by that foxy doctor. Pretty girls make good therapy and speed recovery.
 
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