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Anyone hunt with the longer barreled handguns (Contenders, Encores, big S&W's, Casull, etc.) from their TW or other 2-wheeler and if so what's your choice of carry method on the bike, and why?
 

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Can't help you as I don't have a pistol permit, but hunting season must be closing in because the gun threads are popping up






All I can contribute is that the TW200 is the best thing ever to sneak up on wild animals. In 1000 miles I had more wildlife encounters than from a year of walking in the woods. Must be they make a soothing noise or something
 

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We get a lot of lazy, half-blind, overgunned city hunters up here.



The TW is the ideal insertion tool short of a horse or mule because it's quiet and you can get around the truck hunters and quads onto singletrack and better territory from which to start walking.



Unfortunately it lacks horse radar, which is the most reliable gamespotting method on earth. But at least it doesn't eat when it's parked.
 

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My wife's horses are too dumb to go hunting. Can't even shoot the .22 near the house without them getting spooked. Much prefer the "temperment" of my internal combustion horse


I guess I can hijack my own thread. We have a saying in my former profession:



You can shoot off of ANY horse.



Once.



If you expect him to remain in the same county as you after the first shot you need to put the time in well in advance. lol.



Admiral and others will prolly back me up on their advantages when it comes to spotting critters. If you're in tune with one he'll even tell you where what kind, long before you see it yourself.
 

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I have a Freedom Arms in .454 Casull, but the Para Ordinance .14-45 is much more pleasant to shoot. Deer get just as dead either way. Our farm is overrun with deer. I've seen herds of 100 or more. The TWRA management agent claims 70+ deer per square mile for our joint management area of about 15,500 acres, roughly 20 square miles. That's 1400 woods rats that need killing. Add in the refugee deer from the public hunting lands bordering us, and that deer density can double or triple near the edges. It's nothing to watch deer go by at the average rate of 1 per minute or so when conditions are good.



One boundary of our property is a dredge ditch. Across the ditch is public hunting. From the ditch to the hills, which are standing timber, is 1/2 to 3/4 mile and rowcropped. There are a half dozen brushy creeks running from the timber on the hills to the dredge ditch. The public hunting area looks like an orange grove early in the gun seasons. Deer start bailing out of the public land, across the ditch, and along the creeks as hunters start moving to their stands well before legal shooting light. Things quiet down for a bit at sun-up, but even in archery seasons the sound of wheelers begins about an hour after sun-up. By 3 hours after sun-up, lots of people wandering the public land. Consequently, the brushy creeks become venison shooting galleries. You won't see much in the way of nice bucks, but our limit is 3 does. Per day. Bow season starts September 24th. Last day of hunting is January 8th.



Since my hunting is for the purpose of reducing crop predation, I target the young does because they have the greatest reproductive potential. We are supposed to kill 600-650 per year to keep the deer population stable, more if we want to reduce the deer population. Any blind up in the timber and downwind of one of the creeks will provide 80-100 potential shots per day. I've put down 3 deer in 3 minutes some days. Once, firing through a hole in some brush, I downed 3 deer as fast as I could reload the crossbow. It was windy enough the deer couldn't hear or smell me. Range was about 40 feet.



EDIT: I carry the 14-45s in a cross-draw. If I take the crossbow, recurve, or a long gun, over my shoulder with a sling. It's nothing unusual around here to see 10-year olds wandering about with a long gun during hunting season. A friend of mine was in Afghanistan last season and his 12-year old daughter would ride her bike over to my house every day she wasn't in school, at 4:00AM, with a sporterized AK47 slung across her shoulder. Nobody ever bothered her, even in the middle of the night.
 

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Lol. If you get a 40 foot shot at a mulie you'd better check his pulse first. 300+ yards is the norm here unless you've had the luxury of preseason patterning in the backcountry.



We only have two kinds of terrain when it comes to deer, bear, turkey, etc. here and those are straight up, or straight down, within an elevation range between 4,000 and 10,000 ft. Not the most target rich environment, and with those city boys clogging the lower slopes you'll earn your burger.



As of an hour ago my usual access point for deer has started burning at a rate of 500 acres an hour and they've already called in the DC10's. Good for me, bad for cityfolk on a time budget. Stuff changes in a heartbeat and this tragedy-turned-bonus can go all to heck with one freak snowstorm.



I should stick to birds, or take up fishing. lol.



Hip carry's not real smart with a 14 incher, so I'm assuming crossdraw with some sort of waist tiedown to keep the 5 pounds from beating a hole in your chest. Never really carried one at ready on two wheels.
 

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Lizrdbrth, you are correct sir. Nothin better than horse radar (ears) to spot somthing. When those ears perk up, they see something or think they see somthing. Then I perk up. Sometimes they see woolybugers, but most often the see or sense something we can't. We humans are blind as a bat so-to-speak when compared to our equine friends.



Unless said animals are trained, (and it don't always work either), one shouldn't try to shoot from or near a horse/mule as they tend to make a scene. Have a couple of family members who tried it and regretted it (broken leg, arm). Hell, I'd probably jump too if someone took a shot when I wasn't expecting it.
 

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Have a CCW, carry a 911 Kimber in a crossbreed holster, game illegal aliens much more fun to hunt then animals
 

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I will be tough but qwerty I will make the sacrifice of many weekends to come help you out with your deer problem! LOL

Maybe even ride too.
I've been trying for years to get the place opened up to a select few guests. Too many bad experiences with trespassers for that, though. Immediate family only. Only exceptions are a couple kids and their custodial single fathers. Even my poop-4-brains son-in-law is only allowed to hunt from 1 location.
 

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As of a way to hual a bigger revolver or any handgun for that matter, I would use a good crossdraw holster. Maybe, depending on what it's like in your town, wear the gun under a jacket. I was wondering if anyone might have taken and put a Koplin gun boot on a rack for long guns? I've thought about it. The cycleracks rack could defintly handle it.
 

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I guess most TW guys are also gun guys. A few years ago I stopped to watch a small mother black bear with 2 cubs. My riding buddy got upset when I cut the motor off. (DUH) I did not stop to think that the bear could have charged me before I could crank up my trusty steed. Anyway, he produced a Glock 27 that he had in his pocket. As for my arsenal, I have a Ruger Standard .22, Browning 9mm Highpower, Colt Series 70 .45 and a Smith and Wesson .500 magnum. I hunt with a Remington 700 in .308 and shoot birds with an old Baker 12 gauge. I also appear to have gotten off subject.
 

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wvhunter touched on a sensitive subject. Whatever you do, make sure it is legal where you are carrying. Tennessee allows a choice of open or concealed carry. May not be so where you are. That would certainly limit your choices in some places.

I certainly wouldn't leave any firearm in a case on a bike, ever.
 

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I'm not concerned about legality, just would rather not get beat up by the gun itself during a 20-30 mile offroad day.



Should have been more clear about that, I guess. More interested in what kind of rig folks use when carrying the monsterguns. Not a lot of people do, so I'll prolly have to muddle through it or invent my own.



No biggy. One more chance to start a huntin thread.
 

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I carry my p3at daily. My trail use to be a Taurus 44 mag. 4 inch ported barrel, could drive a nail with that thing at 50 yards. It was the most accurate gun i ever owner. The kick was very manageable due to the porting. On the rzr it s nearly impossible to have anything larger than my keltec on your belt, so i bought a drop leg holster for the 44 mag. Comfortable,secure, and easy to get to. It even worked well on the quad.





 

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If I had to ride any distance offroad, I'd mount a padded case on the luggage rack. Too much risk of damaging a pistol if you fall on it.
 

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Minor sidetrack. Qwerty, seems to me you have a golden opportunity to market "Whitetail steaks, burger" etc. At least out here in the West where deer are more accurately measured in Miles per Deer, and you have to apply for a tag to hunt them, I can see a place for Whitetail on the store shelves. Might be a little hard to market in your neighborhood where they are as common as rabbits, but out here it would be some nice lean meat.
 

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Most states' hunting laws won't permit sale of meat, for a bunch of good very good reasons. It takes a lot of the fun and profit out of poaching, for one. The effort to legislate hunting ethics definitely leaves ranchers and farmers swinging in the breeze.



I don't know about Qwerty's state, but most states I've hunted in have programs to allow excess animals, "mistake" shoots or meat taken illegally to be turned in at meat processors where it is processed and donated to local charities or used to feed large predators at wildlife rescue facilities and zoos. Few offer much relief for farmers and ranchers other than to invite dozens of armed strangers onto their land and hope the meat isn't wasted. Even the most carnivorous farming family can't make use of the meat from predation tags and there should be a legal outlet for the meat that somehow ferrets out the fraudulent yet helps them recoup some of their losses.



Yet another issue I'll need to address once installed as Sublime Benevolent Dictator.
 

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There are means to raise venison commercially around here, but the level of paperwork and government oversight is way up there. A friend was raising whitetails for selective breeding for antler quality and size and overlooked the transfer paperwork of several newborn fawns to an employee's nursery facility (the employee was also a licensed deer breeder). Both ended up in jail, paying tens of thousands in fines, and both over their herds were eliminated. Every last critter. Over a single piece of paper. I want no part of any of that.



In fact, it is major illegal to interfere with the natural activity of any indigenous animal in Tennessee, except insects, even if they are in your house. Bear in the living room? Nothing you can legally do except wait it out. Rattlesnake in the garage? Ditto. It is illegal to even possess any indigenous species or part thereof other than when licensed and in season. Put a deer in the freezer during hunting season? Better have the tag posted on the freezer door.



I keep a couple tenderloins and a shoulder for a September cookout. The rest goes to charities.
 
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