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While I love the super turtle, I'm also interested in something highway capable. I really like the Yamaha tenere 700 with twin cylinders, just don't like the price. I found on ebay new KLR 650's for $5899.00, just wondering if you had one and good or bad points with the bike.
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Bad batch of fuel pumps on the 22 KLR models. Probably stay away from those until you check the VIN with the list of affected bikes. It's easy to find on the web. My buddy that has a 22 KLR really likes it except for that pump issue and its porkiness. Both XR and DR are much lighter and better in the dirt. Relatively speaking...
 

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I had an ‘08 KLR and migrated to a 2011 TW. Did that mainly because I was new to riding dirt and on a ride with the KLR misjudged the distance underfoot and felt it was too tall. Loved the TW for everything it does with the exception of staying up with traffic on the four lane roads. Most people here in the PNW drive like the world is on fire and since there are limited dirt roads out on the island where we live I went back to the KLR.

Yes there is the fuel pump recall but nowadays it seems you aren’t keeping up with the Jones’s unless your vehicle has some kind of issue. If that is the only problem I have with my KLR , I really don’t have a problem. It is easy enough to check, run your VIN and if it comes up needing action remove the seat and check your fuel pump part number. If you’re on the list get it replaced.

It is nice to be able to keep up with traffic and the forum for KLRs are just as rabid, in a good way, and there is great aftermarket support. There was a time last year where it was near impossible to get parts but it is getting better.

I miss my TW but for where I want to ride it was to limiting. Will I get another one? Time will tell, it is still on my radar.

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The modern KLR has all the power for highway riding, but if you do a lot of it, I would swap chain rings so that your RPM will come down so you can get the most from it's already great MPG. It is also a big thumper, so vibration is present and made my hands go numb constantly. My crash bars vibrated between 3100 rpm and 3400 rpm, to the point that I almost filled them with sand, but that may have been a byproduct of those specific bars. It is also tall, wide, and heavy, like too tall and wide for a short bastard like me (5' 6") to ever really get comfortable on it, and damned heavy. However, it is old school simple and very easy to work on. Diagnosing issues is as easy as the TW. They are work horses, and will give you tens of thousands of trouble free miles if cared for. The few times I rode on dirt, fire roads and canal roads mostly, I always felt overwhelmed as it is tall and top heavy, and I personally wouldn't have tried any of the trails I have ridden on the TW, but that is just me. Unless you are a very experienced rider, or tall and strong enough to muscle the pig around, I would look for something else... unless the bulk of your riding is on pavement and/or you are doing really long distance rides. For the price though, compared to bikes with a similar spec, they are very attractive.
 

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Hey Chris, I have a 2011 KLR I bought used from a friend. I've had it 4 yrs and have put over 6K miles on it. As in most things in life one machine can't do it all. At the price point the KLR does check a lot of boxes. I have rode motorcycles in one form or another all my life, I will be turning 64 this year, looking for something lighter I bought a 2013 TW a year ago. In my opinion this two bikes pair up very well. The KLR for more dirt roads and pavement, the TW for single track and backwoods exploring. They both need a few mods like most all bikes. Right now for me and minimal investment these two bikes are prefect.
 

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While I love the super turtle, I'm also interested in something highway capable. I really like the Yamaha tenere 700 with twin cylinders, just don't like the price. I found on ebay new KLR 650's for $5899.00, just wondering if you had one and good or bad points with the bike.
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Chris
I feel you exactly on that Tenere. I have a save search on facebook for a used one.
 

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I have to agree with Gully. I too, have a Gen I 2007. Love / hate is a good way to describe it. Been sitting in the shop unridden for a couple years. For me, it's just too tall and too heavy. On dirt roads it's a blast, not so much off road. Been thinking about replacing it with a KLX300, but that's me. The older I get, the less pavement I ride.

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I had one way back around 1993 I think I went off road once up in Western WA took one small jump landing on slick mud and realized the meaning of top heavy and actually just plain heavy!
I did see a 2021 in all black and it got me thinking of the 650 again but for me it's an urban mauler not an off road bike I much prefer the 300 class KLX300 or CRF300L for the dirt
The Tenere seems like an awesome bike (caught myself drooling over one in an ad last night) and I will likely try one when a deal comes along but I'm not expecting supply to meet demand anytime in the next few years
 

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The new Honda 300L Rally is something I would be looking at if I wanted something more capable and powerful than a TW, yet designed to be more ADV focussed. It will do 80 mph in stock form, and certainly has the beans to go faster if geared right. But that's just me, based on my stature and my overall experience. I rode plenty on taller bikes in my youth, but they were slender, nimble dirt bikes... and speed was your friend in the dunes where I did most of my riding. When I got my KLR, I knew it was bigger and heavier, but I greatly overestimated my ability to wrangle such a fat bitch. I figured my skills would grow into it. But nope... imagine a TW200 that sits 6 inches higher and weighs 200 pounds more, with all that weight feeling like it's in the tank! I say 6 inches because a TW will squat a bit when you saddle up. Swing a leg over a KLR and it's height is pretty much the same as unlaiden. Anyway, I still think the KLR is very versatile and reliable, just bigger than it looks when riding it.
 

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The new Honda 300L Rally is something I would be looking at if I wanted something more capable and powerful than a TW, yet designed to be more ADV focussed. It will do 80 mph in stock form, and certainly has the beans to go faster if geared right. But that's just me, based on my stature and my overall experience. I rode plenty on taller bikes in my youth, but they were slender, nimble dirt bikes... and speed was your friend in the dunes where I did most of my riding.
And it weighs less than 10lbs more than a tw200...added to my watch list!
 

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re top heavy I had been searching for a pristine used KLR650 and finally found my dream bike I forget the miles but under 2k miles and looked like new.
I was hauling it home in my 72 Chev C10 pick up and I looked in my mirror and saw it had fell over in the bed of my truck! I pulled over horrified and found the straps had gently let it tip and there was no damage but I was kicking myself that of the thousands of bikes I had hauled my dream bike was the only one that ever fell over while hauling.
I really wish the story ended there but once I got it down my ramp and on the ground I knelt down to admire the beautiful showroom motor and I managed to lose my balance and it fell over on asphalt on the right side I was mortified but quickly righted it and only suffered a scratched mirror and torn hand grip!
At this point I’m having a bad day so rather than go for a ride I decided to put it in the shop and call it a day. Sounds easy enough right ?
So I get it in my cozy little shop and reached over from the right side to put the kickstarter down on the left side and yup you guessed it the darn bike started to tip before I could reach the kickstand and it fell over on the left side and almost would have been harmless because I was controlling it’s descent except for my old rusty acetylene bottle where my beautiful tank hit and put a small quarter coin size ding and cracked the paint!
Mind you was was totally sober and such events have never happened before or since but every time anyone saw the bike it seemed like they ran to the ding pointing with their finger asking what happened here lol.
I rode it one time on slippery dirt and nearly lost it due to the high CG in slick mud where a TW would be pure fun the KLR was scary and it felt like in any fall the tall weight would smash my leg etc so I sold it and never looked back
To this day it irritates me to think of that 3 stooges event all performed by yours truly

PS this was around 1993 ish and after seeing an all black 2021 in a parking lot I’m stoopid enough to try another KLR lol - this time targeting urban back alleys or dry hard pack desert two track
 

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re top heavy I had been searching for a pristine used KLR650 and finally found my dream bike I forget the miles but under 2k miles and looked like new.
I was hauling it home in my 72 Chev C10 pick up and I looked in my mirror and saw it had fell over in the bed of my truck! I pulled over horrified and found the straps had gently let it tip and there was no damage but I was kicking myself that of the thousands of bikes I had hauled my dream bike was the only one that ever fell over while hauling.
I really wish the story ended there but once I got it down my ramp and on the ground I knelt down to admire the beautiful showroom motor and I managed to lose my balance and it fell over on asphalt on the right side I was mortified but quickly righted it and only suffered a scratched mirror and torn hand grip!
At this point I’m having a bad day so rather than go for a ride I decided to put it in the shop and call it a day. Sounds easy enough right ?
So I get it in my cozy little shop and reached over from the right side to put the kickstarter down on the left side and yup you guessed it the darn bike started to tip before I could reach the kickstand and it fell over on the left side and almost would have been harmless because I was controlling it’s descent except for my old rusty acetylene bottle where my beautiful tank hit and put a small quarter coin size ding and cracked the paint!
Mind you was was totally sober and such events have never happened before or since but every time anyone saw the bike it seemed like they ran to the ding pointing with their finger asking what happened here lol.
I rode it one time on slippery dirt and nearly lost it due to the high CG in slick mud where a TW would be pure fun the KLR was scary and it felt like in any fall the tall weight would smash my leg etc so I sold it and never looked back
To this day it irritates me to think of that 3 stooges event all performed by yours truly

PS this was around 1993 ish and after seeing an all black 2021 in a parking lot I’m stoopid enough to try another KLR lol - this time targeting urban back alleys or dry hard pack desert two track
Great story. I can envision the entire ordeal. The only tip over on my KLR was at work. I worked graveyard shift for a while, so summer nights in Arizona were ideal for commuting on a bike. We had high winds one night and it was enough to tip the bike onto it's right side. Luckily nobody was parked next to me, so I had room to get under it and right it. It scratched the crash bar and and the grip end. All black bike, so some magic marker fixed the crash bar. Still, I about blew out my o-ring trying to stand her back up.
 

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Not sure if this helps you Trailmaster, as the price is a bit higher than the KLR, but I just caught the new video by eveRide on youtube regarding a Dakar 450 KOVE. He gave it glowing reviews and I think it is worth a watch, considering the fact that it is $9k and it is directly compared to a $27k KTM rally bike. Yes, $9k is 30% more than you were willing to spend on the KLR, but how many times in life do we buy what we can afford, not knowing that for just a small amount more, we can get 5 times more product. I certainly would save a little longer and buy much better IF the sacrifice was worth the reward, and I have made the former mistake plenty of times out of ignorance to what is available... or what I realize I actually want and need once I bring my new purchase home. Too many times to count actually. Anyway, hope this helps.
 

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prices on everything from eggs and beer to TW's and KLR's are up or more accurately the value of the USD is down. I know lots of people who get set on certain prices it's really common in real estate in fact every property I buy I meet a neighbor who asks what I paid and then groans and says I paid too much and that he would never pay that but I always flip my properties 2 to 4 years later and triple or even quadruple my investment! I often wonder if those people ever wake up and see the entire train that just passed them buy lol.

I tell people what I plan to sell the property for in a few years usually I use 2 years time frames for my personal calculations and they say nothing ever sold for that much and I say "yet" lol, so far I've never been wrong and once a real estate sale sets the precedent it buoys all the local properties I just like to be the precedent !!! - my mistakes were buying only one property so my sale would set the prices going up but other sales after mine would be higher and higher so now I look for properties where I can buy multiple lots or multiple storage warehouses so my sale starts prices higher then I can sell off my other parcels are prices are climbing. Many young investors don't realize there are senior invesotrs holding lots of cash and they love to loan with real estate as security so rather than pay cash for say one property use the cash for multiple down payments and finance as many deeds as you can get your name on using OPM ie "other peoples money"

I admit the first time in 2020 I gt $4500 for a used TW (it was my personal 2014 with 400 miles and lots of upgrades) I was shocked they could bring that much and heck only a few months later I could have got $5500 and I was buying them for $4500 to $5000 hand over fist !
 

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I have a heavily farkeled 2012..
Some where around 45,000 miles..... I think
Bought it new ...
I love it for what it is. ...
A low dollar adventure bike that doesn't fit in at Starbucks .... Lol
You will hate it an hour or so into a single track ....
Great for camping and Forrest roads ...
Lots of fun on the wet sand at the beach ...
Not real good for chasing wabbits ...
Fantastic for going back and forth to work ...
It's a great bang for the buck .....
It will somewhat do anything ...
Just not as well as some others .....
I have been fighting the urge to trade it in on a new KLRs with fuel injection !
A little lower . A little less top heavy .... A little better on the street ...,
Watch that DOOHICKEY
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08 KLR with 34K miles. Never a serious problem I was not able to fix. Full of farkles and running a full Cogent set up. Yes it is tall and heavy for a 65 year old man with short legs......But...This bike is a two wheeled Bull Dozer!! I've been through deep mud,rocks and water. Topped hills and banks I never thought I'd make and mowed down a pine tree that should have stopped me dead. In other words I've been able to do things that I thought I could not. Is it a perfect bike? Of course not but it does many things well enough I'm not going to sell it.
 
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