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I saw a post of Two Wheels Two Feet that she was looking for a highway bike. Mentioned that she was looking at a CB400 Honda. Seat height of 30 inches.

I sent a short note about the 650 Suzuki Savage. Seat height 26 I believe. I have rode one of these and it was fun. A bit small for my bones, but for someone her size it would be a good fit I think. Has anyone had much experience or owned one of these bikes? They are a single cyl, belt drive unit and like any single you need to keep a few rpm's up to keep them smooth.
 

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I saw a post of Two Wheels Two Feet that she was looking for a highway bike. Mentioned that she was looking at a CB400 Honda. Seat height of 30 inches.

I sent a short note about the 650 Suzuki Savage. Seat height 26 I believe. I have rode one of these and it was fun. A bit small for my bones, but for someone her size it would be a good fit I think. Has anyone had much experience or owned one of these bikes? They are a single cyl, belt drive unit and like any single you need to keep a few rpm's up to keep them smooth.
Those are nice little bikes..
 

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My mums 5' nothing and been riding since I was wee. There's very few bikes she can ride at her height. The three that worked for her are a savage 650 that she owned for 8 years and 50,000kms. A Vstar 650 she still ownes but is looking to sell as its too heavy for her now (she wants a 250 or another savage/s40). And she had a Vulcan 500 that I bought her for a bit. This was the best bike of the bunch in my opinion (so much so I kept it when she no longer wanted it until a crash totalled it :-( ) but she found it top heavy and without enuff steering lock

The savage though she feels was the best fit for her and she did many LONG trips and even a saddle sore 1000 on that bike. It was a finicky bike especially when my older brother got and installed for her a pipe. Never could get the jetting properly sorted after that. Other wise is had a bit of a base gasket leak and the clutch actuation folk broke once requiring me loading into my truck and bringing it h,e to swap it out. Other than that it was a great bike on par for power with the V-Star 650 (aka good with a bit to spare but can feel a bit busy at higher speeds) but not even on the same page as the power from the Vulcan 500 (much smoother at speed thanks to being a sporting twin from the ninja and having a 6speed trams).
 

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Just my 2 cents..."Height of Body" is not really what it's all about, it's those damn short legs and inseam....for somebody like me, long body, short legs{29 inch inseam} The TW is perfect and that Yamaha SR400 retro Gina pictured on her last blog post, peaked my interest: Stock Seat Height is 30.9 inches

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The SR500 Yamaha from the past is one of my favorites, though I've never ridden one. The SR400 didn't get the best review from Cafe Racer Magazine, but they are going to do a build with one. They are both kick start only. I have gotten accustomed to both kick and electric start, and like having both on my bikes, even though my Guzzi's are electric start only. Like everyone on this forum, I like the simplicity of the thumpers.
 

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With a street bike that is much too big for you, when a heavy and short passenger gets on and off, the weight shift can be an issue (especially after a long ride with your feet on the pegs). I used to ride with larger women so I would have something soft to land on if I crashed. A heavier woman also compressed the shocks once on the bike which was also a positive aspect about the relationships for the riding season. A taller woman can just climb onto the bike or kick her leg over the seat without incident. One was so tall for me that I had to go up on her. Another positive aspect of larger women is it acts as a deterrent to domestic violence. Usually after one hit I just stay on the ground. While I may be able to answer about the fascination of getting both feet on the ground, the question as to what is better; a tall thin girl with her legs wrapped around you or a short fat one trying to will always be debated. On a serious note the TW deal for me was locked up because of this forum and the seat height. There is no safe way to ride a motorcycle. Safe means absence of risk. If there is a way to diminish any part of the risk why shouldn't you. I am 5'6 and my street bike of choice was the CB750. The TW the lightest and lowest bike I have ever owned. After 10 years of riding on 4 wheels, I am looking forward to this. As more candles go on my cake, I can live with 55 mph for a 100 mile trek down US-2 now and then. I am sure I can get used to a bike I like that is not 600lbs and 4 inches too high for me.

For anyone who does desire a street bike with a low seat height that will live forever, the Savage 650 is the last word. I must have 50 trips to Detroit on one of them. Bullet proof-one lung-fun-cheap.
 

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My two cents for what it's worth....

I like to think I am still 5' - 2" but the nurse at my doctor's office begs to differ, she says I am now 5" - 1" so, it seems I will be limited more than previously if I decide to acquire any more motorcycles.

What I have found is that even though I can reach the ground on most cruiser style motorcycles, some are too wide and heavy for me to consider owning. I was thinking about a V-Star 650 but ultimately went with the V-Star 950 Tourer which I fell in love with even though I was never expecting to. I never wanted a cruiser, I can't say I like the "cruiser styling" too much but for comfort and function I am beyond happy that I bought one. I did add a Mustang seat with backrest and I changed out the handlebars so that makes longer rides extremely comfy.
I like a lot of motorcycles, "standards" are my preference because I love standing on the pegs. If Yamaha had been offering the SR400 when I bought my Triumph Bonneville T-100 back in 2010 I can tell you, I would have owned the SR400. When I was shopping for a motorcycle back then, I went in every dealer in my area asking what they had in a standard 400 - 600cc range. I was shocked to find out nobody except Royal Enfield had anything that fit my criteria. I actually liked the Royal Enfield but had two concerns that prevented me from purchasing one. One problem was there was something that my leg seemed to be hitting, can't remember what but my main concern was support. Royal Enfield is "the" bike if I lived in India but in the U.S., not so much.
I test ride anything (except cruisers) that I can reach the ground on so, if I see something I might be remotely interested in I ride it. Here is my opinion on a few.... Ducati Dieval...if I wanted a lot of power and a fun bike, this is one I love and can ride just fine although, a bit top heavy. I was really considering a Suzuki Gladius back in 2010 but I chose the Bonneville. Something new that I haven't ridden yet but would love to try is the Ducati Scrambler, I love the look but it's too similar to my Bonneville for me to buy one right now. Oh, I rode a Honda CTX 500 a couple years ago but it had a rev limiter that annoyed the heck out of me because if I want to accelerate and over rev my motorcycle, I don't want Honda cutting me off with technology....I can blow up my bike if I want to. I also liked the Yamaha FZ-07 and FZ-09 and was hoping the FJ-09 would be my next bike a couple of years ago but when I sat on it at the IMS I discovered they had raised it up way too high for me. I was close to buying a low suspension BMW F700gs but the dealer wouldn't budge on price and the 2014 V-Star 950 Tourer was on sale since it was May 2015. The V-Star fit all my criteria except being able to hop off the highway and ride a forest road but, I do a lot of road riding with my Star group so I knew the V-Star would be fine for all my riding with the two Star Chapters I am active in. Plus, I could buy more than two V-Stars for the price of that one BMW so if I feel I need something with more power than my little TW to seek out forest roads I can buy something used to fit the bill.
I know all that sounds like a lot of rambling and I could probably go on and on but I will stop myself....I can get a little carried away but, I'm short and I love riding so I want everyone who thinks they might be limited to realize that if there's a will, there's a way. :)
 

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The Yamaha Virago's are pretty popular, 750 n 1100, and the Honda shadows, both good low seat heights, Ive had both Yamaha 750 n 1100 virago's and they are great bikes. Low seat height, light weight, and air cooled, easy maint imo, Honda use to make a 450 rebel also I believe?
 

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My two cents for what it's worth....

I like to think I am still 5' - 2" but the nurse at my doctor's office begs to differ, she says I am now 5" - 1" so, it seems I will be limited more than previously if I decide to acquire any more motorcycles.

What I have found is that even though I can reach the ground on most cruiser style motorcycles, some are too wide and heavy for me to consider owning. I was thinking about a V-Star 650 but ultimately went with the V-Star 950 Tourer which I fell in love with even though I was never expecting to. I never wanted a cruiser, I can't say I like the "cruiser styling" too much but for comfort and function I am beyond happy that I bought one. I did add a Mustang seat with backrest and I changed out the handlebars so that makes longer rides extremely comfy.
I like a lot of motorcycles, "standards" are my preference because I love standing on the pegs. If Yamaha had been offering the SR400 when I bought my Triumph Bonneville T-100 back in 2010 I can tell you, I would have owned the SR400. When I was shopping for a motorcycle back then, I went in every dealer in my area asking what they had in a standard 400 - 600cc range. I was shocked to find out nobody except Royal Enfield had anything that fit my criteria. I actually liked the Royal Enfield but had two concerns that prevented me from purchasing one. One problem was there was something that my leg seemed to be hitting, can't remember what but my main concern was support. Royal Enfield is "the" bike if I lived in India but in the U.S., not so much.
I test ride anything (except cruisers) that I can reach the ground on so, if I see something I might be remotely interested in I ride it. Here is my opinion on a few.... Ducati Dieval...if I wanted a lot of power and a fun bike, this is one I love and can ride just fine although, a bit top heavy. I was really considering a Suzuki Gladius back in 2010 but I chose the Bonneville. Something new that I haven't ridden yet but would love to try is the Ducati Scrambler, I love the look but it's too similar to my Bonneville for me to buy one right now. Oh, I rode a Honda CTX 500 a couple years ago but it had a rev limiter that annoyed the heck out of me because if I want to accelerate and over rev my motorcycle, I don't want Honda cutting me off with technology....I can blow up my bike if I want to. I also liked the Yamaha FZ-07 and FZ-09 and was hoping the FJ-09 would be my next bike a couple of years ago but when I sat on it at the IMS I discovered they had raised it up way too high for me. I was close to buying a low suspension BMW F700gs but the dealer wouldn't budge on price and the 2014 V-Star 950 Tourer was on sale since it was May 2015. The V-Star fit all my criteria except being able to hop off the highway and ride a forest road but, I do a lot of road riding with my Star group so I knew the V-Star would be fine for all my riding with the two Star Chapters I am active in. Plus, I could buy more than two V-Stars for the price of that one BMW so if I feel I need something with more power than my little TW to seek out forest roads I can buy something used to fit the bill.
I know all that sounds like a lot of rambling and I could probably go on and on but I will stop myself....I can get a little carried away but, I'm short and I love riding so I want everyone who thinks they might be limited to realize that if there's a will, there's a way. :)
Hello Dette, was hoping you might jump on this one. Good to have an elf in here for some good advice on the low slung bikes. You have done the homework.
 

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For the most part one foot works just fine, but, I like both planted firmly when I have a passenger climbing on. More than once my wife walked up and started to get on when I was just sitting relaxed putting my gloves on or helmet strap. Finally I have her trained to at least put a hand on my shoulder and ask, "are you ready?" Worst thing I ever did was put intercom on my Goldwing. Thankfully there is a MUTE button lol.
 

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Compare Spice Jones to her surroundings. Not just her KLR, but the vehicle she is next to.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, I just don't understand the infatuation of people on here with touching the ground. :D
Ha, ha. You just can't trust a country lawyer. I did not know who Spice Jones is or how tall she is so I Googled the name. I still don't know how tall she is, but this photo shows her to be considerably taller in relation to the KLR than counsel would lead us to believe with the photo above....
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As opposed to Mrs Trip, legitimately short at 5 feet tall, next to my stock TW200 and her lowered bike. :D



 

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I thought I read somewhere Gina had purchased a newer Honda twin (700?) I miss seeing her
reports but sure could understand not wanting to ride a TW200 cross country for a neophyte
technician on a old school bike. Things like fuel injection, tubeless tires, alternate drive systems
and antilock brakes really do make for a mo better experience on the tarmac, IMHO
 

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Been some talk, not sure if she made a purchase. I am sure she has enough experience to know what she needs and will go with her heart. I have to admire her spirit for what she does and the will to carry her through.

Merry Christmas Ginamarie and to all the TW forum. You all are special to me. What great friends this past couple of years you have become to be.
 

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I have to take it as a good thing that you continue to add the big smiley face at the end of that statement, so folks don't know whether to take your comment seriously, or with satire. :D

However (another word for but), I will go ahead and address that issue: :eek:

For ME......I have no need to be able to touch the ground with both feet when stopped. Like YOU, I have ridden enough mileage, and ridden enough on uneven ground, that when stopped, we both have the experience to know to place one foot, maybe even just the toes of one foot, on the uphill portion of that uneven road or trail....and that is good enough for you and I. :victorious:

If one looks at the picture of Spice Jones, and her KLR, if that is her bike, first thing they can see is that Spice Jones has long legs in ratio to her total body height. As Hoot(er) pointed out, leg length has a LOT to do with it. Just like Hoot(er), I too am short in the legs, and long in the upper torso. It makes a world of difference. Spice Jones has normal...to long legs....compared to her upper torso. Secondly, that KLR...if it is her's...and she is not just posing for a picture next to that bike, while on a ferry across a waterway......that KLR is grossly overloaded, meaning.....the suspension is weighted down, and compressed. Next, you can see that the bike's seat has been cut down, so, all those factors combined....lower seat, compressed suspension, normal to long legs vs. torso....all add up to a rider being more comfortable on a taller bike, i.e., the KLR, and having the ability to dab one foot when stopped. ;)

Now, in comparison, my wife, that is only 5' tall (short) and has short legs in ratio to her mid/upper torso, is cursed with a short inseam, and......she has far less experience in riding than you or I do. She "feels" more comfortable being able to place both feet on the ground, even if it is the front balls of the feet, i.e., the toes of each foot. Riding on uneven ground is precarious to her, she can do it, but is uncomfortable in doing it. One of "my" jobs is to make things as comfortable in riding her bikes, as I can, or am able. I recognized her limitations/abilities in riding her TW200 off-road, and that is why we sold her TW200 and bought her a Polaris ACE. :eek:

At the end of the day, I want her to come home safely, with little to no bruises or injuries. She can ride pretty darn good on the streets, has about 140,000 miles experience on the streets and roads of North America, but that pales in comparison to you and I. She LOVES riding her motorcycles, but for her to continue to love to ride, she needs to feel comfortable, and if that means being able to steady her bike at a full stop by placing both feet on the ground, even just the toes of each foot, then so be it. ;)

Now, Gina Marie is built somewhat the same, although weighs a lot less than my wife. Gina Marie has shorter legs when compared in ratio to her mid/upper torso. I "think" she has more riding experience than my wife, and I know she has much more off-road riding experience/ability than my wife. Gina Marie can most likely stop on uneven terrain and dab one foot.....due to her experience. But there are times, even on paved roads, that riders...short or tall...skinny or phat....experienced or newbie...want to place both feet on the ground, and feel comfortable doing so.

Oh, I need to add: :p

EDIT: Now, if you meant the context that you don't understand the need to EVER touch the ground...ever at all...then we can take THAT as satirical...and you can forget everything I posted above :booty:

EDIT II: I suspect (and you are used to dealing with suspects) :eek:.....I say, I suspect that you already know and knew all those things I posted above, because you have demonstrated countless times, againa and again, that you have a higher intelligence level than most on here, and do somewhat come across as satirical at times, that you were just having fun with all us...just waiting for ME to take the bait. Well, I hope I made your day, Counselor. :p
A lot of good points made here and i agree with you 100%. I have never felt the need to put both feet on the ground. My Multistrada is quite tall at 34" and for me with my 29" inseam touching both feet is impossible, does not bother me in the least bit. My Girlfriend on the other hand is a newer rider and being able to touch both feet is a huge confidence thing for her. The TW is a perfect bike for her at this point because she can touch both feet.
 

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I thought I read somewhere Gina had purchased a newer Honda twin (700?) I miss seeing her
reports but sure could understand not wanting to ride a TW200 cross country for a neophyte
technician on a old school bike. Things like fuel injection, tubeless tires, alternate drive systems
and antilock brakes really do make for a mo better experience on the tarmac, IMHO
She already made that trip cross country on the TW this past Summer....and survived it rather easy with a little help from her friends...;)
 
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