[MotorSiets]

Hey Everyone,

i know this is a tw200 forum but i have a 2003 tw125. Should be about the same thing just different engine size.

i recently replaced the stock blinkers with LED ones. I also replaced the blinker unit with an LED one. I will post the explaination video right here.

please help

 

[Purple]

Welcome to the board - the crew will be along shortly - there is no difference between the 200/125 for the most part, so I'm sure someone will have the answers

Do you have a part number for the flashers and the flasher unit ? ......

 

[MotorSiets]

Welcome to the board - the crew will be along shortly - there is no difference between the 200/125 for the most part, so I'm sure someone will have the answers

Do you have a part number for the flashers and the flasher unit ? ......

Welcome to the board - the crew will be along shortly - there is no difference between the 200/125 for the most part, so I'm sure someone will have the answers

Do you have a part number for the flashers and the flasher unit ? ......

Thanks for the quick response

text on the front of the flasher says:
Cf13 jl-02
Flasher for led
12v 0.02A-20a

For the leds themself i only have an EAN code but nothing else. They are 12v though.
8719558766918

 

[tjet]

Try removing the bulb in the dash.

 

[MotorSiets]

Try removing the bulb in the dash.

That fixes it! But how? And now the relay clicks really fast

 

[tjet]

When you install LED blinkers, they all need to be LEDs. It won't work if you use the factory incandescent bulb in the dash. For the fast blinking, the bi-metalic spring in the flasher is getting hotter quicker as you removed a resistor (dash bulb).

Are the fronts and rears all blinking, but just fast?

 

[MotorSiets]

When you install LED blinkers, they all need to be LEDs. It won't work if you use the factory incandescent bulb in the dash. For the fast blinking, the bi-metalic spring in the flasher is getting hotter quicker as you removed a resistor (dash bulb).

Are the fronts and rears all blinking, but just fast?

Before removing the dash bulb everything was as in the video. Now when i turn the blinker on it works just perfect and a perfect speed but when the blinker is not on i hear the relay clicking really fast. When i turn the blinkers on everything is perfect.

 

[tjet]

Something is not right. I would double check all the connections and confirm they are going to the correct wires.

Were the factory blinkers operating normally before you installed the LED ones?

That flasher unit is picking up power somewhere

 

[MotorSiets]

Something is not right. I would double check all the connections and confirm they are going to the correct wires.

Were the factory blinkers operating normally before you installed the LED ones?

Could i be just because there is no bulb at all for the dash indicator?

will check all connections. Yes it worked fine before the LEDS

 

[tjet]

I'm not familiar with that flasher unit. Do the instructions tell you to add that additional ground wire?

 

[Laconeznamy]

Could i be just because there is no bulb at all for the dash indicator?

will check all connections. Yes it worked fine before the LEDS

Motor, removing the indicator removes a path by which current can flow the "wrong" direction across to the other side of the bike. This causes the issue you noted first in your video - that the blinker goes "low-high-low-high" instead of "off-high-off-high". The reason this doesn't happen with stock incandescents is that there's not enough leakage current to light up the filament, but LEDs take so little in comparison so they do.

I have a strong suspicion (but am not 100% sure) that your "really fast blinking" might be caused by the 3-pin relay having an additional path to ground, but that part I wouldn't be sure on due to having purchased the two-pin LED relay from Procycle instead.

You can solve the dash indicator issue by buying or fabricating a diode kit to ensure the power can only flow in one direction through the indicator bulb. I made mine myself through a bit of trial and error but after work if you like I can go find the link to the buyable one.

 

[Laconeznamy]

And just to be clear here, I, too, replaced all bulbs with LEDs (including all dash bulbs), but I just used 1156/1157 LED drop-in replacements for the turn signals. The outcome should be the same though.

 

[MotorSiets]

I ordered all the indicator dash lights as LED. Just to be clear, when i turn the turn signals ON the tempo is PERFECT. When i turn them off it is JUST THE RELAY thats clicking really fast. Thanks a lot for all the help. I thing putting an LED light in the dash will fix it.

 

[tjet]

Hopefully 🤞

 

[JimmyD]

I ordered all the indicator dash lights as LED. Just to be clear, when i turn the turn signals ON the tempo is PERFECT. When i turn them off it is JUST THE RELAY thats clicking really fast. Thanks a lot for all the help. I thing putting an LED light in the dash will fix it.

I wouldn't ride the machine with the fast clicking. That means that it's constantly getting power and that clicking you're hearing means that little filament is getting hot and tripping. Doing that for 30 seconds at a time in traffic is one thing but would worry me if I were riding around. Maybe someone else can chime in and tell you if that's a concern or not.

As someone else pointed out, it's likely that a two pin LED relay will fix this if the LED dash bulb doesn't.

 

[tjet]

I know you put a lot of thought and effort into this, but I don't like that flasher module. It negates the power reduction you save when converting to LED.
These are expensive, but it's the best and it's what I installed (along with Motogadget LEDs)

mo.flash Blinkrelais von motogadget

Blinkrelais, Blinkgeber, LED-Blinker, lastunabhängig,

www.motogadget.com

Also, some of the dash LEDs have the polarity in the wrong direction. Hopefully, the one you get is ok. I ended up redoing all my LED lights (swapping the wires) to match the dash LED polarity

 

[Laconeznamy]

I know you put a lot of thought and effort into this, but I don't like that flasher module. It negates the power reduction you save when converting to LED.
These are expensive, but it's the best and it's what I installed (along with Motogadget LEDs)

mo.flash Blinkrelais von motogadget

Blinkrelais, Blinkgeber, LED-Blinker, lastunabhängig,

www.motogadget.com

Also, some of the dash LEDs have the polarity in the wrong direction. Hopefully, the one you get is ok. I ended up redoing all my LED lights (swapping the wires) to match the dash LED polarity

True statement, I managed to get lucky and get ones with the correct polarity first try. Can drop an Amazon link if anyone is interested, they're still on sale there.