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Being more than a little disgusted with the ongoing violence by revolutionaries and their calls to defund the police I was happy to offer some support as likely felt by most Americans:
Leaving town out for a camp-n-ride other day I was paralleling a motorcycle officer on a 55 mph expressway. He pulls into the left turn lane as we both stop a red stop light. It is a beautiful early morning, roads are empty, birds are chirping, life is good...
We eye each other and give the fellow biker smiles & head nods... I'm checking out his Kawasaki, he's scooping out Betty Boop.
Light changes and he makes a too sharp U-turn and suddenly down he goes. Bam! Like he was pole axed or riding on Trail Wing tires.
Fortunately he had a clean ejection sequence as the bike spun away from him without any entrapment, spilled gear, broken parts nor leaking fluids.
I pull into intersection to block any possible oncoming traffic and offer to help right the officer's bike. He gets up, declines my offer and does the bend, squat & lift to recover his bike. Guess the police policy requirement is "If you drop it you have to be able to pick it up". Relieved to see he was apparently un-injured and was getting the bike onto the shoulder I cleared the intersection and resumed my journey.
Anyways "Blue Lives Matter" is more than just a saying. These officers risk it all every day working to keep us safe from the forces of evil, not just bad driving. Let's give them credit now and then and lend support either physically or philosophically when possible.
 

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unusual to see a moto cop go down, they are usually some of the best street riders around.
 

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I blame it on possibly Death Wing tires.:)
 

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Way to go Fred, blocking/ flagging traffic is right below stop the bleeding when someone goes down.
A simple embarrassing dump can go really bad if traffic comes barreling through unaware.

I ride with a bunch of motor cops and regarding their skills, it was even more shocking to discover many couldn't shoot well either.
 

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I would guess the officer simply initiated too sharp a U-turn and started to power out a heartbeat before his seat was back in the full and up-right position. On the TW a little power can correct the steering angle and stand you back up but likely not so easy on a porky patrol bike. At least the panniers and crash bars prevented the officer from getting trapped under his bike.
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I have two Godsons who are local Sheriff's Deputies. I have a Son who is an Eagle Scout but sides with the BLM protestors.

I don't care how it all turns out. I'll be gone.

I know I have good people on my side fighting for me.

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Were there any manhole covers in the area where the cop lost traction?
I know that a manhole cover was the reason my rear tire broke loose on my one and only fall on pavement.
 

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My focus was more on the officer's safety and other traffic than anything else so devoted but a second or so to scan for anything on the ground, things like broken parts, radar gun, ticket book, etc. or a contributing cause.
As such nothing caught my eye. This was a newly constructed expressway with nice clean asphalt with fog line and lane demarkation paint. No obvious hazards.
Once situation was stable I cleared the intersection less than a minute after the incident.
 

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Just on the news up here. A couple of months ago; someone complained because a school resource officer had a "Thin Blue Line" flag in his office or on his desk. The chief; who was retiring; had him remove it just to "not cause problems" during these times and requested all his officers to do the same. As of now; the new chief has left things the same; but he has only been here a few weeks and has more crap to worry about.

So this is because at the "defund the police" protests where people have shown up to show support for the police carrying Back The Blue signs and Thin Blue Line flags - and some of those supporters are white supremacists - the protesters are now saying that "Back The Blue" and "Thin Blue Line" flags are racist. And thus anyone who supports the police Back The Blue or Thin Blue Line must be racist also.

Well some of those white supremacists (whose ideology I do not support or other actions condone) were also carrying American flags (so the American flag must also be racist). And I'm sure that those white supremacists among the pro-police people there, were also wearing pants. Therefor any person who wears pants must be a racist also.

The Moronification of America is well underway.
 

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I support the police. Call me a racist then.
 

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boys, this is going to be a touchy subject. Fred slipped it in here pretty innocuously... I'm just sayin.... are we ready to go on this subject....
 
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copied from Fox News

In the affidavit, Christensen wrote that she watched “innumerable hours” of video on social media platforms trying to identify the suspect with no luck. Then, a tipster emailed the Minneapolis Police Department identifying him as a member of the Hells Angels biker gang who “wanted to sow discord and racial unrest by breaking out the windows and writing what he did on the double red doors,” according to the affidavit.
An investigation found that the man was also an associate of the Aryan Cowboy Brotherhood, a White supremacist prison and street gang based mainly in Minnesota and Kentucky. Several of its members were in Stillwater, in eastern Minnesota, late last month when a Muslim woman was confronted by a group of men wearing White supremacist garb.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
 

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It is my professional opinion that these "protesters" are nothing more than shit-disturbers who have realized that they are untouchable, for the sake of political correctness. As such, they are doing (literally) whatever they want, without consequence.
Ever tell a bunch of children that they can do whatever they want without punishment? These "protesters" are no different.
I see the reports on the News every night...crowds of criminals making "demands" that are already being addressed....but apparently not quickly enough, so they continue to hold businesses and residents hostage in their own cities and neighbourhoods. The ONLY end in sight will be if Trump declares martial law...which may have been the objective from day one; get the incumbent to do something (even more) outrageous, that has never occurred before, to give the opposition more fuel for their non-existent fire.

The same thing was happening up here with the NatGas pipeline...streets and railroads were ILLEGALLY blocked, but because the protesters claimed solidarity with the Natives...they remained untouched by the police.
This whole anti-police movement has gotten ridiculous; the organizers of the local "Pride Parade" are telling the Police that they are NOT to show up at the festivities this year....they told the police that they were "banned" from attendance. Since when does a fringe group have the authority to ban the police?
 

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it is important to see who is wagging the dog. the protesters have a legitimate issue that they are calling out.... others wish to de-legitimize the issue... and use violence to establish that perception.

This whole anti-police movement has gotten ridiculous; the organizers of the local "Pride Parade" are telling the Police that they are NOT to show up at the festivities this year....they told the police that they were "banned" from attendance. Since when does a fringe group have the authority to ban the police?
I'm sure the gay cops could attend the festivities out of uniform
 

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No matter what race they are, I'm on the side of the Cops til they turn me against them.

The only time I have ever been held at gunpoint was in the mid 1970's, at 2:30 am in San Antonio. He was a City Cop, about my age and he thought he was in over his head and was so nervous that I thought I was about to get shot. I told him that "whenever the action starts happening here, I'll be on your side".

It was just me and him and nobody else, so when I asked what he wanted me to do to make us both safer, it seemed to calm things down a bit. He was a good guy, almost as good as I was, and he recognized me later in a grocery store and we had a great talk about it. He said that incident changed his life and he almost quit the force over it. Of course it had an affect on me too.

They are the good guys/gals. The few bad ones need to be rooted out but, in the end, we need to have Police who want to be there for us.

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boys, this is going to be a touchy subject. Fred slipped it in here pretty innocuously... I'm just sayin.... are we ready to go on this subject....
It's not the subject. It is what people are insisting everyone else must accept that is not real.
You can now change your name and your sex on your birth certificate. So if I have been convicted as a man of raping women or molesting children - I can just change to a female name and sex and start all over again without anyone being suspicious. Sounds right to me.
If the top five men and women basketball players from a high school each year were each always granted a full scholarship to a certain college - and I was the 6th best player on the men's team; but better than all the female players - and a full scholarship would be the only way I could go to college; then I could just say I identify with being female; and automatically play on the women's team and get a scholarship. I guess that is fair and equitable to the actual female who I just took the scholarship away from, right.
And on and on it goes. What is true; real; factual does not seem to matter any more. I just recently read about a group that calls themselves Boogaloo (anti-government). They like to wear Hawaiian shirts. I've worn Hawaiian shirts since the 70's. I guess now I and all the Hawaiian people and all the tourists that went to Hawaii can no longer wear the shirt style they like. No wording or slogans or anything on it. Just a loose fitting style with flower prints etc. But someone wants to come along and say now it's bad and others say duhh....duhh, that sounds reasonable to me.
So nothing specific; just generally everything.
And Fred's story is about an actual event where he tried to help a downed motorcyclist that also happened to be a Police Officer. He starts and finishes a long story saying he was glad that he could help a downed Motorcycle Officer because he feels they are taking an "unfair beating" (my words).

So I don't feel that his "pretty innocuously" story was sinisterly.
I'm sure a lot of criminals and protesters would feel that - Fred helping a downed motorcyclist is bad/wrong since the downed motorcyclist stood for Law and Order.
But since I might be thought to have been speaking about one specific subject; I will make one specific comment on that particular subject.
There is only one real reason to de-fund law enforcement. And that is so that the robbers, rapists, child molesters, and murderers that are of all sex, and race, and idealogy, have a better chance of getting away with their crimes with fewer officers on the street!
 

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it is important to see who is wagging the dog. the protesters have a legitimate issue that they are calling out.... others wish to de-legitimize the issue... and use violence to establish that perception.
I have no issues with people protesting...but you can protest on the sidewalk, not in rush-hour traffic.
As soon as your protest does something illegal (ie: infringe upon MY rights or the rights of others), the police should be rounding them up in the paddy wagon, or dispersing them with water cannons.
This isn't communist Russia...this is North America, with more freedoms and rights than these "protesters" would ever have in their Socialist/Marxist utopias.

I'm sure the gay cops could attend the festivities out of uniform
I'm sure there will be...but that wasn't the point.
I can't publicly announce that I will be speeding along the highway tonight and I forbid any police from pulling me over.
 
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