[crossent]

I found a tw next to my mother in arizona. I live in so cal and was wondering if anyone has any experience in purchasing a bike out of state and bringing it to ca. AAA said it has to have ca smog equipment to be registerd in ca. Did they have smog in 2002?

Mike

 

[lizrdbrth]

Yes, they did. Cali bikes have a charcoal canister, different tank and jetting.



DMV/BAR is a crapshoot. Sometimes they say nothing, and other times they just say say no. Not sure I'd risk it.



About the only way to find out is to show up with the pink and cross yer fingers.



You could call B.A.R. first. If they say yes you have ammunition against DMV.

 

[bikerjosh]

Keep in mind the bike needs to have 6500 miles before you can bring it into to CA. my 2 cents

Josh

 

[lizrdbrth]

Keep in mind the bike needs to have 6500 miles before you can bring it into to CA. my 2 cents

Josh

I forgot about that. But if B.A.R. will let you register it, I'll provide you with a temporary alternative to your defective odometer.

 

[Ripshod]

Did they have smog in 2002?

Mike

I was in California in 2002 and I didn't see any.



Good luck.

 

[peruano]

There is some possibility that the bike in AZ is a Ca compatible bike. Its been reported before. However that may not obviate the mileage restriction that has been mentioned. Check with your original seller as to the specifics of the bike. Tom

 

[lizrdbrth]

Zackly. If it turns out to be a a C model,I got your back on the other thing.



B.A.R. has the final say. Call them and axe if you can retrofit the bike. If they'll allow it, I got yer back there, too.

 

[Gerry]

Though you indicate a "used" bike, I purchased a new Calif. bike from a dealer in Nevada with no 'problems'. Plating it in Calif. required that I only know where the emissions decals were so I could show Calif. DMV. Seems many dealers on the border buy the 'low emission' bike so they can sell in either state. Gerry

 

[gbprincic]

Newbie needs clarification on acronym B.A.R.?

 

[lizrdbrth]

Newbie needs clarification on acronym B.A.R.?

California Bureau of Automotive Repair. They are charged with determining what emissions equipment is required on vehicles in Cali, NOT the DMV. Lots of them are gearheads, surprisingly helpful with things like engine swaps, etc. Call them, ask to speak to a smog referee. Explain the situation and make sure DMV is even telling you the real skinny. Lots of bad info out there, and DMV employees won't even bother to tell you about B.A.R. referees.



First determine that the vehicle isn't already a C model, as Gizmow and Peruano have suggested. You may be in luck. If not, call B.A.R.



The TW has a pretty primitive set of emissions equipment, with Cali models differing from 49-state models primarily in vapor containment. Ask them if they'll allow retrofitting if they say no to the Az. vehicle. I can loan you the stuff you need for inspection.



I've actually found them pretty decent folks to deal with. Your mileage may vary.

 

[crossent]

Called dmv today and was told I would have to pay the same amount of tax as if i bought a new one. You can buy a new one from 2900 to 4200. I wonder how they determine how much. Maybe msrp? Sounds like it's getting to complicated. By the way, anyone here buy a newer tw on craigslist(la area)last week for 300 within hours?

 

[T-Dub Ken]

As much as I complain about Illinois being the "Peoples Republic of Illinois" and a major "Socialist" state I still find it hard to believe that I can enjoy living here after hearing about California.



We only pay 25 bucks for a used motorcycle tax and even small amount for a car.



I can drag anything I want back into my state and they gladly plate it.



I picked up a TW from Atlantic City last Summer and it cost 25 for the tax and no emmissions issues at all. God I love my state! Would rather live in Indiana where you are free but for some things I really do love my state!



So what's this deal with 6500 miles on the bike? Explain that to us NON-Left coast people.

 

[lizrdbrth]

Called dmv today and was told I would have to pay the same amount of tax as if i bought a new one. You can buy a new one from 2900 to 4200. I wonder how they determine how much. Maybe msrp? Sounds like it's getting to complicated. By the way, anyone here buy a newer tw on craigslist(la area)last week for 300 within hours?

More DMV misinformation. If you have a bill of sale from the previous owner they can only tax you for the actual purchase price. If you have no bill of sale they will assign the vehicle a value, and you'll have to pay taxes on their assigned value.



Unless you know the ins n' outs, you should prolly let it go and I apologize for sending you down that path.



This crap is only gunna continue to worsen as of last Tuesday.