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Come on out! Bodie and I will be riding the Challis area trails and two tracks, the weekend of 20 and 21 July. I'll be there by the 17h, and probably pull out the 22 or 23rd. Should be a good time of year. After snowmelt and July 4th crowds, before the inevitable smoke.
We are hoping to get a spot in the mill Creek and or mosquito flat reservoir campgrounds.
Lots of riding to be had in the area, home of the yankee fork. Salmon and Pahsimeroi rivers. More Salmon-Challis National forest, and blm land than could ride in a lifetime. Fire lookouts and old mining areas are hi on the list.

For sures: Admiral, bike, allanb, truckcamper and tw, 16th, bodi, truck and trailer, bike and atv, 17th ejfranz, truckcamper and trailer, bike. white elephant, van and trailer?

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My god that is a beautiful area....I had no idea it was popular, thinking that it was kind of isolated ….being so far from Boise and with so few people …...and with so many places to ride in Idaho …….that it got very little use.

We were there in the late spring with another family and we just parked our motorhomes down by the river and had the whole place to ourselves......came over the Pass from Warm Springs and were just stunned by the setting....had to stay and ride....as I recall there were a lot of side by side routes for easy family riding...
 

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Lots of riding to be had in the area, home of the yankee fork. Salmon and Pahsimeroi rivers. More Salmon-Challis National forest, and blm land than could ride in a lifetime. Fire lookouts and old mining areas are hi on the list.
Mark us down as very interested. It's been many, many years since I've been up there and it was never on a motorcycle, just truck camping. Did some hiking though. Bodi has been up there many more times than I and probably knows the area better than anyone (here on the forum that is).

More than can ride in a lifetime is right. I might have a Bill Dart map of mostly single-track trails in the area. Well, single-track trails are what he rates for difficulty not jeep/logging road trails though they are shown.

I camped up near Eightmile Creek a couple times which is up further past Custer Ghost Town (which is cool). The mine road would take you to old mining area cabins but it has been over 20 years since I've been up there. Due to a washout right at the Eightmile CG (small with only few tents spots), eightmile creek road was almost impossible to turn on. Goggle earth makes it look better now after all these years. I did ride the kids PW80 on a go-around but that involved a little cross country trail finding before I got to the road. Depending on the group size the area right across from the small CG might work...might but again, Bodi should have some good info on camping area's.


Good Idaho trail planning tool: https://trails.idaho.gov/
 

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Beautiful country, sorely tempted to come join you folks. Could spend a few days just re-visiting old haunts. Now a few places to clean up my act.:p
 

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I advise anyone planning to join us to get a "Salmon-Challis National Forests Challis NF" map. I hope to make a quick trip up there in late June to check out the Mosquito Flat Res. area also as a potential camping area. I haven't been up there is a while but the area might be more central located to allow rides as far West as Pinyon Peak Lookout, Indian Springs GS and Loon Creek and as Far North as Yellow Jacket GS, Middle Fork Peak Lookout and the Mining areas between them. Mosquito Flat Res area would also be closer to Twin Peaks Lookout and the Bayhorse Mine area. There are a far amount of single track trails including a section of "Tour of Idaho" that takes off just NW of Challis up to Iron Lake. I have not ridden any of the single track but many of these trails are difficult at best and I would advise someone in the group carry a chainsaw. The area provides great riding for SXS, ATV and Dirtbikes good fishing including Lakes and Streams and plenty of Old Mining areas and Lookouts to Explore. There are plenty of Youtube videos and pictures online.
 

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Recall Yellow Jacket Lake as a good camp and fishing spot, used it as staging area for backpacking into Big Horn Crags. Wonder if knees are still good enough to visit places like Ship Island Lake since there is so much more than just motorcycling. 289317.JPG

Yellow Jacket Lake, rode up there on a Honda Reflex from the Salmon River once, had a very sore butt when I finally arrived. Would be better on the TW: large_012dbc93c3d2e50a3bc0f86c9c28a92e.jpg
 

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Thanks for weighing in guys. I was last there, just a quick drive thru in moms Buick, in,.....1978. Cant wait to explore as much as can see in a week ..or two.
Think I have a Challis nf map in the library, if not will order one and a bill dart. Will look up and research all the places mentioned, more than can do with my benchmark map.
I put that trails Idaho link on my desktop Admiral. And then tried to attach it here. But said wasn't valid, or some such.
Whoo hoo, come on summer. Nice to have trips on the calendar, to look forward to and plan for.
 

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The area north of Mosquito Flat CG was heavily burned in 2015, but not the campground itself nor the hills to the south. There are 16 spots and it is pretty popular in July, but there are also several dry group sites further west a mile or so. No reservations.

There are also some dry group sites north of Custer along the Motorway before 11 mile. That area also burned in 2015, starting at 11 miles north of Custer. All group sites south of Bonanza are usually packed by the 4th of July. Idaho just ain't like it was in 1978! :(:sad11:
 

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Thanks for the local info Rocky. No doubt there will be a lot of dancing around burned out areas.

population of the U.S in 1978 was 223,000. today its 327,000! We could go into californication, etc, etc, but best to just leave all that alone, until the campfires burned low:rolleyes::mad:
 

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I did a lot of backpacking in that area in highschool and college and it is beautiful. After finishing one trip we stopped to soak in a hot spring on the Salmon River. We struck up a conversation with a group of dirt bikers that were soaking their battle wounds after riding the Yankee Fork area all day. They said the riding was amazing and I have wanted to take a motorcycle there ever since.
Side note: while we were soaking and talking to the riders, a group of partiers left the hot springs and grabbed one of the riders pants and wallet, which we didn't figure out until we all got up to leave 20 min later.
Count me as a definite maybe for making the gathering, especially if the NE Oregon gathering does not happen this year.
 

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Fantastic area. Haven't been up Challis way since around '95. My best friend's grandmother was Ethie Corrigan, Challis resident, a published cowboy poet and local pioneer. She died with her boots on.
I'll mark the date in my calendar and try to make the trip. Only 4.5 hrs from here.
 

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Campfire? What's that? I haven't had a campfire in Idaho in 20 years.....:sad11:
Oh man. I wish you hadn't said that Rocky. We'll never get Plumbstraight to come out now :)
Come on up Fred, be good to ride with ya again, on your slow rides....
Be good to see you again Mountain, don't think we ever did ride together on the Oregon '18 ride. Time to fix that!
Be good to meet ya NV Cowboy, any friend, anybody who's ridden with Fred....
I ordered the Bill Dart maps, look forward to pouring over those. The trails Idaho site shows all the trails, good site. But a real map, that you can spread out on the kitchen counter, mark up and make notes on, and later tuck into tank bag!!
 

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I have done a lot of riding in that area. Twin Peaks, The big horns, Iron lake. Loads of fun. If you go to Twin peaks be sure to head out about 20 more miles to Sleeping Deer Mtn Lookout. I usually make my camp at a nice campground on the Salmon river near Ellis about about 20 miles down stream from Challis. Nice big campground and never too busy. It is centrally located for doing Iron Lake , Yellow Jacket Lake and The Big horns No fee, Primitive but has a toilet, big enough for probably 50 camp sites. It is busy only during peak steelhead season spring and fall. If you have google earth search Ellis idaho then look for hat creek road/Dry gulch just down stream. The big area on the opposite side of the river is what I am referring to.
 

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Ok, just added those dates to my calendar. 2019 should be a great TDub year! Really looking forward to seeing some of Idaho from the seat of my Dub, and seeing you guys again. Edit: Oh ya, what kind of weather is expected at that location and time of year?

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I need to go up to Boise last week of January and plan to drop of my seat for Seat Concepts also
Hit and Miss on Thunderstorms but expect some showers. Upper 70's daytime Upper 30's night..
 

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Thanks for the info heyduke. the twin peaks lookout has been on my list. Didn't know there was another on sleeping deer. Added to the list, and ya, got to run out to the ends of any two tracks happen to be on!
I'll look up the camp spot by Ellis, the benchmark map shows a "historical hot springs" at dry gulch, bit further down the road.
Be good to ride with ya again Commandog. Setting up another big north by west road trip are ya?!
I received the Bill Dart maps within 3 days of my order. Tons of numbered and graded trails, overlaid on coated, Nat geo maps! While spending $, signed up for On x maps. Now just need to download them to a tablet. And see if their numbered trails agree with the numbers on the F.S. and Dart maps.
 
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