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Hey Guys,



Little info. would be nice. Recently completed and oil change at 2k. After completion I made sure I loosened the bolt up top and oil was flowing out. But after riding I was noticing a slight ping type sound that is coming from the top of the engine. Could this be a valve out of adjustment? Everything indicates that the oil change was correct (correct amount of oil, good filter, oil coming out from top bolt). The only thing I changed was the oil type. Went from 20/50 to 10/40 (starting to cool off her in MT.)



It is by no means a knock. Just a light ping type sound. At first I thought my exhaust was loose but after letting it cool, all was tight. I have never checked the valve clearance ( I know they suggest it at 400mi but I just never got around to it).





anyways....am I just being a nervous nelly or should I break down and check them?



another note, there is no performance lost at all..power throughout rpm range and all gears.



also, not impressed with yamalube.
 

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Did you replace the oil filter, and if so, did you make sure there are four holes drilled in the end with the larger rubber gasket? A lot of folks talk about that problem of people buying filters without the holes and seizing up their engines. I am so paranoid that I check the filter before I even pay for it.



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Did you replace the oil filter, and if so, did you make sure there are four holes drilled in the end with the larger rubber gasket? A lot of folks talk about that problem of people buying filters without the holes and seizing up their engines. I am so paranoid that I check the filter before I even pay for it.



Dan


I am with ya, no its the right filter. This should be verified by the fact that oil is getting to the top of the engine (through the top bolt)!
 

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Oh, sorry, I kind of missed that part. Don't you just hate it when work gets in the way of trying to help someone on a motorcycle forum




Anyhow, I don't really have any other ideas, being new to the TW200 and all.



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Hi, there.

I wonder that how many miles on your TW200 ??

Mine had similar sounds when I had changed oil for the break-in periods.

Currently, it went over 2000 miles ??, and the little "tick tick" sounds from engine head parts was almost (99%) gone.



I remember from other threads about this issue, and the sounds wasn't big problem .

It is from "Valve and/or Cam" break-in sounds >> which I read about from.



Not sure for your case, some other may help you about it !!!
 

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What oil did you use?



I used Rotella once based on the advice of this board and there was a ticking / pinging after.



So I changed it again with Silkolene 20/50 that I had been using and it went away immediately.



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What oil did you use?



I used Rotella once based on the advice of this board and there was a ticking / pinging after.



So I changed it again with Silkolene 20/50 that I had been using and it went away immediately.



-Larry
Honestly, I am leaning to doing the same thing going back to the Mobile 1 v-twin 20/50.



Just not that impressed with the yamalube 10 /40! Shifting and clutch feels a little more "stiff". As well as just more general noise!
 

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Rotella is bad I only got thirty thousand miles from my 07' TW and had to do a top end overhaul. Bottom operates like new.

My TW engine has had Rotella in it since it was new. I run the hell out of that little bike but I do maintain it. That oil has done it's job. I run Rotella in my very expensive diesel engines. 10K, 20k and more $.
 

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Rotella is bad I only got thirty thousand miles from my 07' TW and had to do a top end overhaul. Bottom operates like new.

My TW engine has had Rotella in it since it was new. I run the hell out of that little bike but I do maintain it. That oil has done it's job. I run Rotella in my very expensive diesel engines. 10K, 20k and more $.


I don't get it, Rotella is bad, but all you use is Rotella and it's done it's job? Could you clarify that please?



I'm only asking because that's what I use in my other bike. I have not used it in the TW yet but would like to if it's okay for it. Supposedly, it's the best oil for older bikes but I haven't been told anything about it for newer bikes.



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[quote name='dhoenisch' date='13 August 2010 - 05:50 PM' timestamp='1281750642' post='1697']

I don't get it, Rotella is bad, but all you use is Rotella and it's done it's job? Could you clarify that please?



Sarcasm




I run it in everything I own. My last KLR650 was sold at 80,000 miles. I still see it around town occasionally. My current one just hit 40,000. It needed its first valve shim at 32,000.



Rotella sucks.
 

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I use the Walmart brand of oil in the big pails. I use it in everything, (automotive and heavy equipment diesel engines, diffs, final drives, winches, auto transmissions, hydraulics,) type appropriate for application. What's the consensus on this brand of oil, of appropriate grade and weight, for our motorcycles?

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Paddy, as you do, I use the Supertech conventional in all vehicles. However in the motorcycle, I use the Supertech Synthetic motorcycle oil rated for the wet clutch. It meets the minimum Yamaha requires JASO rating MA and above. After reading so many posts about synthetic oil making the TDub smoother shifting, and I must admit I was skeptical, I decided to try it.

I first used it at about 2800 miles and it took, best I remember, about 400 miles or so and I noticed it seemed a tad easier to find neutral. This was not something I had a problem with at all prior but just seemed to slip into neutral a bit easier. I am only guessing, but perhaps it took the 400+ miles for the clutch plates to become impregnated with the synthetic oil and made the plates disengage better (read slip between themselves) when the clutch lever is pulled in thus less pressure on the gears.

Two other things I noticed for certain, and this coming from a guy who was skeptical prior. When first cranked up cold, the bike absolutely does NOT lunge near as hard when first put into gear. Also, the clutch lever has a much smoother and progressive engagement on take off rather than the abrupt engagement point that it had before synthetic.

Smoother shifting while on the run? Well . . . . YES! But that gets better as time goes on so I can only lend partial credit to the synthetic in that regards. Now knowing that you and I will get flamed for using Supertech Brand, I am really going to get spanked on my next confession.

I put the synthetic in at about 2,800 miles and did not change it till 4,200 miles later at 7 grand!!! Before the severity of the flogging begins, please note these miles were logged in only a 4 month time period and seldom did the bike get cranked without riding at least 50-100 miles or more. And I never needed to add any oil to it. I bought the bike from a lady when it only had 849 miles on it. Whether accidental or on purpose, tells me the lady did a pretty good job of breaking it in.

So, let the beatings begin. Sticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me!
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