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I remember toying with the idea of putting a smaller two finger clutch lever on my bike a while ago and I just had a thought. If I can't find a lever to fit the bracket, I should be able to switch the bracket as long as it fits a 7/8" bar right? Are clutch cables pretty universal as far as how they hook up to the levers?
 

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The answer is Yes. Regular 7/8" perch will work fine. I'm thinking about doing the same. I had these (just levers) on my ebay watch list for months now. Looking for something cheaper since these are pricey. I don't want to replace the perch due to them having the mirror mounts. Please share what you find. Maybe I'll get them too....:D

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=380584274177

I'm more interested in a shorty brake lever, but both would be ideal. Kinda hard to swap perches for my brake since it's a juice perch.

I would buy these in a heart beat if they fit. Seller has no idea. Does anyone know if YZF levers fit the TW? These are sweet. Adjustable and folding. Plus, I like the blue.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=271745823349
 

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Nice site Bob, they must have ten different styles if one looks around, most in 8 colors. Unfortunately all but one state they are not for hydraulic brakes. Bummer.
 

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Bob, the first link where you mention two sets, one at top, one at bottom of page has the oem clone std length levers for ~$24/ pair. Not shorty, no sexy anodized colors either, a very stock look.
 

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What is the difference in clutch perches from the years they have listed and other years? I'm assuming since you ordered them for an 09 that there isn't. Seams to me like changing a clutch perch for this kind of bike would be of an odd move.
Let's start here. What year TW do you have that you want levers for?

They list only up to the current year that it was when they made them. So, if it was made in 2004, and it was listed on the website in 2004, then that's why it only goes up to that year.

All years of TW "Clutch" Levers And Perches are the same. So NO issues there at all. Only the Brake Levers and Perches changed. 1987 - 2000 have cable/drum levers, and 2001 to current, have hydraulic/disk levers and perches.

So, TW's with drum brakes have different levers than disk brake.
All years (1987 to 2015) TW's have same Clutch Levers.

Now, TW levers are the same as some YZ, YZF, XT, TTR, WR model years. But, I won't confuse you. But again, they are more common to have aftermarket levers made for them.
 

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Curious how much shorter they are, look nice.
I'll lay them out next to the stock levers and post a pic when they get here....;)
The thing I don't like about these, are the rubber gripers at the fingers. They will wear out the fingers fast on my gloves. I prefer smooth, slick levers, but they match. I did find shorty Moose Racing clutch lever, and a shorty Trick Racing brake lever, but they look different and not matching. I'm funny with stuff like that. I'm into fine detail. Plus this set I bought came out to be about $6 bucks cheaper than those 2 others combined.
 

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Tommy,
Yes, I just copy & pasted from description:

• Cast aluminum lever sets with silicone grip inserts and anti-friction bronze bushings
• High-quality polished cast aluminum construction
• Levers approximately 1" shorter than OEM
• Compatible with OEM or Moose Racing perches
• Sold in pairs (1 brake lever and 1 clutch lever)


But it's always nice to see side by side....:)
 

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Let's start here. What year TW do you have that you want levers for?

They list only up to the current year that it was when they made them. So, if it was made in 2004, and it was listed on the website in 2004, then that's why it only goes up to that year.

All years of TW "Clutch" Levers And Perches are the same. So NO issues there at all. Only the Brake Levers and Perches changed. 1987 - 2000 have cable/drum levers, and 2001 to current, have hydraulic/disk levers and perches.

So, TW's with drum brakes have different levers than disk brake.
All years (1987 to 2015) TW's have same Clutch Levers.

Now, TW levers are the same as some YZ, YZF, XT, TTR, WR model years. But, I won't confuse you. But again, they are more common to have aftermarket levers made for them.
Aaaaand the last horse crosses the finish line. That makes so much sense I'm embarrassed I couldn't figure that out.

It seams to me like most of the cool stuff is made for YZ's and YZF's, so if you wouldn't mind could you give us those matching model years?

Oh, and mine's an 06.
 

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Sooo I found these part numbers for my 06 per Partzilla.
Perch - 1LN-82911-00-00
Lever - 4GY-83912-00-00

So theoretically if I find a bike with a perch or lever that matches those, an upgraded lever should work right?
 

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Then again maybe not, comparing my years PN to older models, they don't match up.

Not that it amounts to a whole hill of beans all the parts diagrams look dang near identical.
 

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Sooo I found these part numbers for my 06 per Partzilla.
Perch - 1LN-82911-00-00
Lever - 4GY-83912-00-00

So theoretically if I find a bike with a perch or lever that matches those, an upgraded lever should work right?
What earlier years? And of what bike, TW?

On "Part Number" They don't match and will unlikely be the same for different model Yamaha bikes. At least Never the 1st set of numbers before the "-" or "Space". The Center section of OEM part numbers may match, but that's it. The first set is year and model code (or something like it), which does NOT make it a different part.

The Part Numbers are only needed for the stock OEM replacements. If your only interested in the "Clutch" side, AND if you want a "New" Perch as well, then just buy "Any" CABLE Perch and Lever assembly you want. It WILL work perfectly if it's for Cable setup. Some clutches are juice (hydraulic). As Long As Is Cable, it WILL work. For Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki, KTM, etc. That's for a NEW Perch & Lever.

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If you ONLY want a New Lever, to fit the Stock Perch, then you Must buy a Lever that FITS your Perch. Here is a "Partial" List of bikes that have same levers that will work. Even though part numbers do NOT match. It's only Partial because it includes a maching Brake lever as well.


Yamaha TTR125L 2005
Yamaha TTR125L 2004
Yamaha TTR125L 2003
Yamaha TTR125L 2002
Yamaha TTR125L 2001
Yamaha TTR125L 2000
Yamaha TTR125LE 2005
Yamaha TTR125LE 2004
Yamaha TTR125LE 2003
Yamaha TTR250 2005
Yamaha TTR250 2004
Yamaha TTR250 2003
Yamaha TTR250 2002
Yamaha TTR250 2001
Yamaha TTR250 2000
Yamaha TW200 2004
Yamaha TW200 2003
Yamaha TW200 2002
Yamaha TW200 2001
Yamaha WR250 1996
Yamaha WR250 1995
Yamaha WR250 1991
Yamaha YZ125 1999
Yamaha YZ125 1998
Yamaha YZ125 1997
Yamaha YZ125 1996
Yamaha YZ125 1995
Yamaha YZ125 1994
Yamaha YZ125 1993
Yamaha YZ125 1992
Yamaha YZ125 1991
Yamaha YZ125 1990
Yamaha YZ125 1989
Yamaha YZ250 1999
Yamaha YZ250 1998
Yamaha YZ250 1997
Yamaha YZ250 1996
Yamaha YZ250 1995
Yamaha YZ250 1994
Yamaha YZ250 1993
Yamaha YZ250 1992
Yamaha YZ250 1991
Yamaha YZ250 1990
Yamaha YZ250 1989
Yamaha YZ80 2001
Yamaha YZ80 2000
Yamaha YZ80 1999
Yamaha YZ80 1998
Yamaha YZ80 1997
Yamaha YZ80 1996
Yamaha YZ80 1995
Yamaha YZ85 2004
Yamaha YZ85 2003
Yamaha YZ85 2002



OK, Simplified version recap.

ALL Clutch "Cables" on ALL Japan Made (Incuding KTM & Husqvarna) MX, Dirt, Dual Sport and Quads are the same at the lever end of "Cable". (So all Cable Clutch Cable Ends are the same.) And, they are ALL 7/8" diameter bars At The Controls, even if they have Fat Bars (1 1/8") because they ALL taper down to 7/8" at the Control area. SO (follow me), you can buy ANY Clutch Perch with Lever Set, for ANY of those Japan Made (including KTM and Husqvarna) bikes. As long as they are Cable Clutch Bikes.


I hope you got it now. I really don't know how to explain it any better. If your still unclear, maybe I can explain on the phone easier. I'm sure you will understand much better what I'm saying.
 
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