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Some folks here are hunters and fishermen, others not. Wild game sure is tasty and without chemical additives or growth hormones.
Whether it be the rut, or hunting pressure, or change in seasons but the mule deer are really coming out of the hills and into suburban landscaped salad bars. Last night going to and from a wild Halloween Party I came close to collecting some radiator grill meat several times as deer would pop onto the road in front of me. One was a really nice buck who whose antlers came close to being my wife's new hood ornament. Thank goodness for strong brakes and a low blood alcohol level ( costume party was for some high energy Cross Fit exercise and Brazillian youthful friends and featured a lot of alcohol fueled funny business).
So wishing good luck to all those heading out into the hills for your deer, elk, moose, bunny rabbits, whatever. And if unsuccessful finding game check under your neighbors azaleas and rose bushes, thats where they may be hiding:D
 

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Funny you mention this because yesterday a buck, forked on the left side and spike on the right, crossed the road in front of me. It wasn't close as we saw each other and I slowed down leaving plenty of room for him in front of me. My camera was off so no video.
 

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Best way for the electric fence is one low- they drag their feet or as you said nose. Then one about 3' high about 2' behind the low one. Of course this doesn't work for turkey's.
Many neighbor's feed, they want to see the critters. I don't feed and I see the critters!
 

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I'm trying. I've already killed 24 this year. All yearling does for maximum reduction in breeding. The young lady who hunts with me has taken the same number, and her dad returned from the Middle East Thursday and took 6 this weekend. We are doing the best we can.

All went to charity freezers as we are still over-stocked from last year.

EDIT: Ski is right. Deer are vermin around here. Way too many of them. Lots of Lyme Disease around here from the stupid ticks. Herds of deer just aren't natural. Needs wolves, panthers, and bears.
 

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The balance between man and nature is one filled with much controversy. We can't seem to strike a working and acceptable environmental plan no matter what we try. Too many deer and not enough natural predators and the flip side is natural predators and danger to humans and domesticated animals. Too many people moving in to the natural ranges of animals and not enough food left for them. We have those who hate hunting of any kind but complaining about insurance rates because of hood ornaments. In my area a lot of the land is posted, private property and closed to hunting yet the forage base of food for all the critters is incapable of sustaining them and being decimated by over browsing.

We could discuss this balance of nature and never come to agreement. Last night when I let the dog out for last call I had a coyote in the yard. I woke up this morning and had 3 deer out there and just a few minutes ago a bear cut across the yard. Later a flock of turkey will pass through and the squirrels are a constant gathering nuts with an ocassional hawk picking them off. The small brook trout in the stream don't stand a chance when the water is low and the blue heron goes fishing.

I suppose if you don't care to have critters in your yard a good plan might consist of Not offering them plants and foods that attract them. If you are a bee keeper you might expect bears after the honey. If you raise chickens then plan on fox, mink, coyote, Hawks all looking for dinner. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction and this is the way of the world. Try as we may but there is no clear cut answer.

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In my area, Central Coast of California, the deer population has greatly expended
in the last couple years. Farms I work for are having crop damage never experienced
in years of production. Most blame it on the protection of mountain lions. I think part of it
is the deer have figured out to hang around human habitation to keep away from da lions.
Of course the lions are figuring this out and we are seeing more and more lions where
normally you'd never see 'em.
 

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Been seeing deer like crazy this year. Ive already seen more bucks in two weekends then I did the last two years. This nice 8pt went by me last sunday. I hope he makes it another year or two.
 

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Looks like you hunt high. What is that 25' or so? Challenging angles when you get up there! Good luck with your season.



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Yeah I like to go 25-30'. You could wear hot pink pants and they still wouldnt see you as long as they dont smell ya.
 

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Totally agree. I find my height is predicated on just how sure I am of the direction the deer will be coming from and how much cover is available. I killed a decent buck last year from just 7' up a young spruce. I had one shooting lane and could have been playing on an x-box and he still wouldn't have seen me:)


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Hi guys: This year around here the deer and squirrel etc. population is lower because we had a mast collapse last year, not 1 acorn etc. The turkeys seemed to tough it out the best, and now the predators are constantly on the prowl. Dogs in fits every night. Scat all over. This year so much nuts, and please watch the Walnuts if riding, they can be fun, this next year the balance will change as a lot of the predators will die this year and the prey will have a better chance going forward. Have watched this boom and bust cycle for years. The only places this shit really gets out of check is where hunting, etc. is banned or frowned upon. Then the prey has a chance to truly get overpopulated as the predators can't seem to get to them, with the exception of the coyotes which are some of the cleverest animals I have ever run across. The ironic thing about hunting is that in the 19th century we went so over board hunting that we wiped out over 1 billion passenger pigeons, almost all of the Bison, and all but a handful of white-tailed deer. Our greatest hunting President of all time Teddy Roosevelt, which any modern trophy hunter would be envious of, started the process that has now come full circle and as all processes do, go from one excess to the other.
 

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His name was Theodore. He punched people who called him Teddy, and his political opponents chided him daily. Teddy was a bear, the phrase "Teddy Bear" originating when the dogs chased a bear into a mud bog and Theodore did the sportsman-like and honorable thing, he refused to shoot the trapped bear, tied the dogs, then rescued the bear and freed it to run another day. Disrespectful reporters referred to the bear as Teddy's Bear in their hateful and deriding little stories, accusing Theodore of being a soft-hearted wimp for not shooting the trapped bear. And that, Purple Penguins, was the start of the tradition of teddy bear fuzzies for children.
 

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Theodore was a rather different individual! He probably killed more exotic big game animals than most humans ever get to see. Kind of like the current King who has played more high end golf courses than we will ever know.

I do find it a bit hypocritical that the story about the bear, if true, gets Teddy some sort of badge of honor for not killing it. Think about it, a 2 ton elephant can't really run away very fast and a .500 Nitro Express rifle from a hundred yards will do the job every time. I just can't call that very sporting or at least not as sporting as I am dusting little tiny red squirrels from 50 yards when they don't stand still for much more than a few seconds. Teddy's trophy room is a testament to his Sportsmanship and I would not pay a dime to see it. Oh, wait. His trophy room is probably a good start on our national debt because we paid for all of his safaris. Even our trained military snipers get my respect over the rich fat cat. They made kills that needed to be dead!

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First off, elephants only look slow because of their size. They are surprisingly quick over short distances, 25mph is fast enough to catch you. .500 Nitro Express must be perfectly placed to stop a charging elephant before you become the gooey stuff between the elephant's toes. Shoot a departing elephant with a .500 Nitro Express and more than likely it won't die for several days, if at all. If it doesn't die, it will remember your scent and if it ever gets down wind it will get even with you.
 

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I have a set of fiction novels. They "feature" a relative of TR. I have never confirmed this but- he supposedly cleaned up the corrupt New York police department.
Like everyone he had his good and his bad.
We supposedly have National Parks because of his Idea. I think he was somebody I could respect. I don't have to agree with everything to respect someone.
 

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First off, elephants only look slow because of their size. They are surprisingly quick over short distances, 25mph is fast enough to catch you. .500 Nitro Express must be perfectly placed to stop a charging elephant before you become the gooey stuff between the elephant's toes. Shoot a departing elephant with a .500 Nitro Express and more than likely it won't die for several days, if at all. If it doesn't die, it will remember your scent and if it ever gets down wind it will get even with you.
It had nothing to do with Teddy and everything to do with the bleeding heart Liberal BS story. I would have gone hunting with THR in a hot NY minute. And, oh yes, any caliber you shoot at a dangerous animal better be well placed or backed up by a real shooter! Never make a dangerous animal mad at you!

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"Theodore was a rather different individual! He probably killed more exotic big game animals than most humans ever get to see. Kind of like the current King who has played more high end golf courses than we will ever know".


Love this!!! I wonder who you are talking about. :p
 
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