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Post some of your pictures or videos of some gnarly singletrack or 2 track trails where you almost crapped your pants (or maybe you did)!:p If you would, post a little narrative of the situation and outcome!

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Daggett Creek Trail, Boise Idaho

After riding through a rocky creek trail for a couple miles, the trail climbed up out of the creek drainage. I didn't make it! The grade was too steep in this deep rut. If I would'a had my handsaw or my shovel I would have bushwhacked or dug my way around . You can see I tried to go up on the left of the ruts but my stock tire just spun in the loose dirt. If I had made it past this point I was home free to ride the rest of the trail. In the end, I retreated and headed back the way I came.


There was a go around, but it too was a no go! The rut was just too deep & narrow for the TW


And the diaper moment.

After retreating, I tried a different steep trail but caught my leg on the tip of a downed pine tree. Well, you can see the result of that try. I finally gave up all hope and rode the same way out I came in on.


Mrs. Admiral pre-TW days on the ATV. Coming down a jeep trail in the foothills above the Weiser Sand Dunes. Not only was it steep, but a nice rut was thrown in for the good measure. I had to help steady the ATV so she could turn the wheels and steady her down past this nastiness. Once past here we enjoyed the rest of the day riding around.

Kind of looks like a 4-wheel saddle bronc rider!
 

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Ain't nothin like Admiral's ruts but I occasionally have my moments. Here the I tip over harmlessly enough turning around after Duro fails to cross a churned silt buried rut. No diaper moment, just apprehension as I'm going over about possible injury.
 

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No apprehension here, just embarrassment. I try to tell myself we all have our "oops" moments but this was just inexcusably sloppy. I've strafed these single track switchbacks dozens of times with never a problem. This day I had the stock rear tire with street gearing and it just wasn't the same coming out of turn four.:p Complacency caught up with me.
 

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I wish I had pics of my "OH SH*T" moments from Jomama's puddle scuddle, they would have been good ones, ask SanDue! :rolleyes::p;)

The only oop's pick I have from that ride is of Fred! BTW, he was just sitting on his bike... :eek::p:D
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I know I'll have to pay for this... m.
 

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Mike sure caught me falling over just leaning on poor ol' suffering Betty Boop. I tend to do that. I did get a nifty badge from mhomadness and some scabs as souvineers of the Joemama's last Group Ride.:p
Here is a pucker factor of mind over matter the other year near headwaters of Stanislaus River, California. Camped a mile away I wandered here initially too late in the day to try this section so returned the next morning fortified with fresh brewed coffee, a full day's provisions and gave it a go. The first fifteen feet or so ofsteep and smooth is no problem, it is the turns and lumpy bits that cause fear of a low speed hi-side. Camera doesn't show but this whole mess is hung on a prestty respectable slope with maybe 30 ft vertical between where I dropped in and end of boulder field at video's end.
 

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A lot of rides have some technical moments when deviating from the trail is certainly not recommended. I want to ride, not drag mis-behaving machinery back uphill...am getting too old for that.
Need a young pup like Adam-in-Nevada in the following video. Notice how his almost stock TW nimbly handles a pretty steep trail with a couple good challenges. Trail has no recent tracks to guide him and he has never been on that trail before. Not bad. These bikes with their low center of gravity and gyroscopic meaty tires can go lots of places if you get 'em going and keep 'em going with a reasonable amount of momentum. Takes a quick eye and sense of commitment, but that is half the fun of motorcycling anyways, right? ;)

Adam is the only guy I know able to dent his Ricochet skid plate. Lord knows I've tried with mine...somewhere have a clip of me repeatedly trying to wheelie over a trail-blocking boulder only to have the tire slip and smash bash plate on the granite again and again.

Note: When I first pioneered this trail years ago on a borrowed Honda Reflex ( a street legal trials bike ) I had some pucker factor crossing from one side of drainage to the other. Had doubts too first time I tried it on the TW.
 

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fred,
i swear you're part mt goat.... some of the trails you call home turf have pucker factor at 11+.

always enjoy your videos and appreciate the effort to get them posted.
ride on!
 

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I agree with you joeband! Even if he didn't think they were diaper moments I did. Especially the "Ladder" and "Granite Mtn trail" videos. Yeah, both those trails look gnarly for sure. Thanks for posting Fred!!!
 

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By dropping into first and crawling along Betty Boop leads me to all sorts of interesting places. When solo I try to avoid obvious diaper dumping stuff but sometimes it is neccessary.
The Ladder had a bypass I have taken fellow T-Dubbers on but it has been closed on my last visit meaning no easy way back other than a 40 mile loop unless one wishes to climb the Ladder.

Here is the scenic bypass power company workers bull-dozed closed with mega-boulders during my last visit.:( Ladder dumps out at entrance to second water crossing. Infinitely easier than the Ladder!
 

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One more...here the single track is just plain fun until I see where trail will fall off into a long canyon committing us to whatever lies ahead for the next 8 miles until arriving at American River Canyon thousands of feet to our north. Fearing serious Diaper Dumping terrain ahead I insist we turn around. Fearless Adam wanted to proceed...I mumbled something about discretion being the better part of cowardliness or some such.:)

...so we took this easier road instead as there was still another 40 miles of riding planned
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Mike sure caught me falling over just leaning on poor ol' suffering Betty Boop. I tend to do that. I did get a nifty badge from mhomadness and some scabs as souvineers of the Joemama's last Group Ride.:p
Here is a pucker factor of mind over matter the other year near headwaters of Stanislaus River, California. Camped a mile away I wandered here initially too late in the day to try this section so returned the next morning fortified with fresh brewed coffee, a full day's provisions and gave it a go. The first fifteen feet or so ofsteep and smooth is no problem, it is the turns and lumpy bits that cause fear of a low speed hi-side. Camera doesn't show but this whole mess is hung on a prestty respectable slope with maybe 30 ft vertical between where I dropped in and end of boulder field at video's end.
fred,
i watch this again 3 months later and swear it's your proximity to all those sierra passes the wagon trains had issues on... something in your dna.
your rides look like you need black and tackle, poor betty your well used mule!
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Joe, gotta get you up here for an easier ride sometime.
Something like this, a portion of one of the many emmigrant wagon train routes over the Sierras that is not too challenging today. This was a spur off the Carson Pass pioneered by Kit Carson and General Freemont on a military expedition to wave the flag in the faces of the Spanish, English, French and Russians back in the 1840's. The spur road later serviced one of several abandoned mining towns called "Summit City" where another western legend Snowshoe Thompson delivered the mail year round. Impressive as the snow lies pretty deep here in the winter above 9,000 ft. Today the mine site lies obscured in the wilderness and is skirted by the Pacific Crest Trail.
 

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Me, Idaho Larry, and our former member RoninBoise (RIP) did the engine off tire drag down this steep and rocky decent.


Later on, Idaho Larry involuntarily inspected the hill just below this singletrack trail. He found a different way back to the trail.


We all had a few "off saddle moments" on this ride. Not all are recorded to protect or image! :p
 

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Really, really nice trails Admiral. Like the way you occasionally park the on it's side to share close-ups of all those pretty wildflowers with us.

Carrying the vise grips is a brilliant idea. I can see how they could help a person limp back with broken foot peg, shifter, brake pedal, brake lever, clutch perch,clutch cable or throttle cable in addition to normal tool uses of a pair of vise grips like removing cactus spines or even turning nuts.
 

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Joe, gotta get you up here for an easier ride sometime.
easier?
heck no, i'd love to do the rubicon on a two day overnighter!
 
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