[jtomelliott49]

I'm in the process of putting tires on my spare wheels. I have read what I can find regarding tires, so I think I might try an ATV tire on the rear and a Pirelli MT43??? on the front. I am interested on tutorial on going tubeless, but wondering if I can go tubeless front and rear??? Can someone point me in the right direction for some instruction?

 

[Fred]

The TUBliss company can sell you a ~100 dollar ~100 psi bladder that will seal the front spokes allowing "tubeless" operation up front. Or a $5 tube of silicone can seal individual spokes as well as a new tubeless valve core. TUbliss Motorcycle Dirt Bike Durable Tires | Tubliss
My favorite front tire was an IRC GP-1 Trials tire that while the tread seemed a clone of the 244 the handling seemed superior to the Shinko.

 

[redlegsrides]

I just spooned the MT43 trials tire onto the rear of my KTM. I read and watched a lot of good things about it. It should be great on the rock and I just rode it in the sand and it seems very good, although I hear it is not great in wet mud. My brother in law is coming with me out to Moab so we will be trading off bikes between the KTM and the TW. The front tire on the TW was not an issue before he was coming because quite frankly, I don't know any better. The stock front tire is great on the beach but when I get to the trails I may get a quick education. As far as putting the MT43 on the front of the TW, one thing that I really like about it is rim protection. The rim sits in the bead and as the sidewall flexes the rim is protected by tire. I will try to take a pic and post it here.

I've the MT43 on the front, and it was terrible in sticky mud...stock fender which of course clogged up immediately to the point where the front tire wouldn't turn so that didn't help. I was told by previous owner that trials tires aren't great on mud. I'm a newbie at this so FWIW. Raising the fender slightly soon but will really try to avoid mud in the future.

 

[Diesel]

Just installed the Pirelli MT43 on my bike. Figured I would post pics in this thread in case there is anyone else that is considering this tire. I stay away from mud so I can't comment on that but it is working great on gravel roads and trails.

 

[Diesel]

Removed duplicate post.

 

[zippythezip]

Here is a shot of my Shinko SR241, I found it picks up mud and small stones, then it got trapped under the fender. I raised the fender using plastic raisers I bought on Ebay. Works great now, took some getting used to due to different "feel" but a better tire without a doubt.
TW200 by ronald embree, on Flickr

 

[Maxpower]

I just got a Kenda 761 in a 110. Love the tire so far.Looks right on the bike. Its slightly smaller dia then stock and allows a small bitbit more of clearance between the tire and the fender

 

[Darth]

How's the "turn-in" on paved or smooth corners?
Should be a little quicker & more precise...

 

[SwampFox]

The 241 on snow, wet roots, loam mud, rocks, logs, all good....Slush, or mud and then sand before the mud clears not so good. No tire is good for everything but so far I like it much better then the 244....

...My favorite front tire was an IRC GP-1 Trials tire that while the tread seemed a clone of the 244 the handling seemed superior to the Shinko....

I've been generally pleased with the Skinko 244 4.60x18, but at ±5,000 miles it started wearing unevenly; although walking speed handling is now a little compromised, performance is still acceptable off-pavement, but no longer good on-pavement. I'm considering the Shinko 241 as a replacement, but the Shinko USA site states the 241 is ...Not intended for extended highway use... and, among other things, I'm prepping the TW for a friend to ride the 200 mile, mostly paved, Texas Tiddler Endurance Run. [I plan to ride the Honda MB-5, while Mrs. SwampFox plans to ride her Zuma 50F.]

Now the IRC GP-1 are the preferred tires on our CRF250L, as the GP-1 rides smoother and wears more evenly than either the Shinko 244 or the Kenda K270. However, the GP-1 4.60x18 "rear" should have a stiffer sidewall than the 241, and also, as a "rear" tire, it may not have quite as round a profile as a "front" tire.

All this being said, my query is: Is the Shinko 241 suitable for "extended highway use" such as a 90% on-pavement 200 mile day ride(s)?

 

[ejfranz]

I find the MT43 great in mud. If the tire pressure is low enough, that tire will not gum up with mud.
Yes the low fender can be an issue, but that is going to be the case no matter what tire you have up front.
The TW had the golden boy on it to start and I could not get it to stick to the slick mud up around Kamloops.
Put on a slightly worn MT43 I had laying around and found it worked great.

The advantage of the tubliss system is that the 100 psi "bladder" acts as a rim lock.
I have the Tubliss on the back of the WR250r , but it will be moved over to the DT200 when I do a tire change on both bikes.

 

[Denn]

I put a Shinko 241 on mine tonight. I took one lap around the neighborhood and I didn't crash so I guess it is good so far

I'm hoping to hit some back country later this week.

 

[Krakrak]

The 241 looks interesting but what about the fact that it's not intended for extended highway use?

What is "extended" ? An hour? 5 hours? 30 min???

On shinko's Canadian site there is not a trace of this warning, only on the American site.

 

[Sthrnromr]

Just order it from a Canadian site and you'll be all set.

 

[BUMBLESPECIMOODA]

Did some good test'n of the Kenda Klassic K257D, 4.60-18-4-ply. Super grip, super stable in sand, rolls nice on cement (although I would not corner like motogp on it. Tall side-knob squirm). I highly recamend it, if you'all are doing a lot of offroading.

Looks mean too.

 

[bartruff]

I have had 4 TWs since 1987 and I ride about 90% on dirt and 10% on low speed low volume paved roads......I use whatever tires at whatever tire pressure (18 psi ?) they came from the factory with....have had zero problems....

 

[Usadventureracing]

Due to my location I will probably be riding more paved roads than dirt so are folks recommendations for tires? I have the stock tires on at the moment and so far they had been fine.

 

[Purple]

The Bridgestone TW34 (stock rear) with a Shinko 241 up front will cover most things — although the 241 is fairly soft so it will wear more rapidly, but again, for 50 bucks it’s not that bad, and gives you excellent off road capability

The “road going” tires for the TW, are the Bridgestone TW203 and TW204 combination. There’s a pair in our classifieds as today. Bit pricey (not the ones on sale here), but hard wearing very grippy tires on tarmac

Not so hot off road as you can tell by the tread pattern, but with care, they will still get you most places

I believe Shinko does a similar tire, slightly cheaper, check fleabay for model numbers

As these “road tires” are best on tarmac when they keep their profile, you can up the tire pressures to 22psi to 25psi quite happily, which improves top speed and mpg — lower the psi to 18 or less for off road as you would expect. Running tarmac constantly at lower pressures will result in a “flat profile” on these, so carry a small pump with you

Although the TW34 rear is excellent at both on road and off, try not to mix knobblies with smoother road tires — it’s not good for the handling at all

But get rid of the stock front while you’re ahead — it’ll catch you out eventually ….

https://www.tw200forum.com/forum/performance-customization/64906-another-front-tire-thread.html

 

[Soulprogression108]

Well I just spent the evening reading almost this whole post and I’m no closer to picking a front. I’m in need soon and was close to ordering a k270 5.10 but now i think it’s too big. I need something 50/50 ideally. I ride a good amount on pavement and can’t afford to give up good handling there but desperately need better traction off-road than the stock. Mud, clay, sand, dirt, gravel, roots, rock reggae you name it it’s here. And often all in one trail. EVERYthing but snow and ice thankfully ?

 

[sierrastalker]

Went out for my first "real" trail riding last weekend at Hollister Hills. I've only had one motorcycle before, and that was a 1976 Honda Hawk 400 in 1998. So, I didn't exactly get any dirt experience on that. I do have quite a bit of mountain bike experience at a pretty advanced level, so I'm familiar with what a good tire feels like in the dirt.

Anyway, I've got about 1,100 miles on my TW now and FINALLY found out what all of you guys mean by "Death Wing". I was all over the place on the dry, dusty trails up there having one close call after another for a solid hour before I finally ate shit. So, now I've got a new line item -motorcyle crash- to add to my life experiences list. Luckily I came out of it with only bruises and scrapes, and the bike only got a few scratches on the cycleracks and the hand guards. I've got a brand new Shinko 241 sitting next to me ready to mount up tomorrow night. Also ordered some boots - it was also scary planting my foot in my hiking shoes a few times when the death wing washed out!

I'll post the results of how the 241 performs after I get out again, hopefully over the weekend.

 

[sierrastalker]

Just an update and another vote for the 241. I got back out to Hollister last weekend - WOW - what a difference the Shinko 241 makes over the stock DeathWing! It's like a new bike. Heading up to the Sierras this weekend, so we'll see how it performs in some different conditions.